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[LOCKED] [OT] Let's have ANOTHER rage thread!
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elford
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I don't so much have rage at Entry #70, as much as I have disappointment. I really thought that there would be an answer or two hidden on a tape someone tried so hard to dispose of. I feel a huge sense of being let down, and I really didn't want to feel this way. I wanted to be excited about some new info these tapes provide. But there is nothing really new to me being revealed here, and seeing the Operator in the same place he was before didn't do anything for me. So, there are my thoughts about the new entry, since there is nothing to really discuss about it for me.

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Lithp
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Jesus Christ, will everyone stop bawling about Pravado? The posts bitching about him outnumber his actual rant posts, & arguably out-whine him. Seriously, the only way he can "ruin it for you" is if you don't have enough security to handle the fact that people don't like what you do, & ignore them.

In no way am I saying that he should be raging in the Entry threads. But that is the exact opposite of a solution.

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Magyk
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Funny, I came to this thread to bring up the same thing Lithp.

Pravado is entitled to his opinion, and he's entitled to how he wants to present his opinion too.

Rage at people raging at pravado for having an opinion.

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Lithp
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DTMWTRA.

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Geneaux486
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Magyk wrote:
Pravado is entitled to his opinion, and he's entitled to how he wants to present his opinion too.


Problem is we aren't entitled to that. We're not supposed to talk about the quality of the entries in the actual entry threads, Zarggg has made it clear that those threads are for in-game discussion only, so the people raging at that aspect (not including myself because I broke the shit out of that rule as well so I'm just as guilty, and I'm not angered by Pravado) do have a valid point, though they should be raging at all of us who derailed the thread, not just Pravado.

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Lithp
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It's even more derailing to post a ton of posts complaining about the derail, which Pravado will obviously respond to. Hence why I called it "the exact opposite of a solution."

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Good God. Reading everyone arguing about how to argue reminds me of another part of Internet history-- a time during the 'wild west' days of the internet when things got waaaay out of hand...

I'm talking of course about the Poke'shipping wars. Ship-to-ship combat that resulted in actual treaties between forum cliques. You guys don't really want to wind up making pretend treaties, do you?

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Drksrpnt
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The reason people really dislike pravado isn't because of his opinion.
It's because of the way he gives his opinion.
He could be calm and reasonable about it.
Or... he could be a complete dick about it.

pravado wrote:
What a load of shit. This entry was worse than fucking ameteur work. I get there's more important things in life, but good lord did they even take more than 3 minutes to write this one out?

I could shoot all of this in an hour tops. Takes them 2 weeks, even though it only requires 2 people to film (maybe even only one person if the operators arms weren't going to move.)

They're going to reveal that Amy is totheark or something lame. Even though that won't work because tta knew about the operator before the entry 26 tape, and amy acted like she just saw him for the first time. God, I cannot express how stupid and pointless this entry was.

Now to read ten pages of fanboys praising this entry.


Just that first FUCKING line.
Yeah, he's entitled to how he wants to present his opinion.
But it's because of how he presents it that people tend to get pissed off at him.

It's hard for me to believe that any of you don't realize that it's not the opinion, it's the "RAGE AT EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ENTRY RAAAAH" that he does.

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TheOperator
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I'm more bothered by the fact he believes that every entry should take as long to shoot as a single take with everything going completely right. Keeping in mind this was not only the fastest entry release in ages but they also got back an actor they hadn't used for 3 years. Also calling anyone who likes an entry he doesn't a "fanboy".

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pravado reminds me, somewhat, of a guy on a podcast I am sometimes on. The podcast is called Cultdom Collective, and on that podcast we review various cult shows (mainly Doctor Who). There's a guy on that podcast that we only know as Darth Skeptical. He's generally the most critical of our lot, to the point where he either tears Doctor Who episodes apart or just generally dissects them in terms of story, production crew, music score, and so on. When he dislikes something, he can be quite critical, kind of like pravado.
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paladin181
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This thread was temporarily closed for people raging against an individual before. I hope it doesn't happen again.

And Yes, Pravado is opinionated and at times pretty douchey. But a lot of his observations also carry weight. I really wish the admin would do something about his attitude, though. Blatantly saying he doesn't care about the admins' desire to keep OOG commentary out of game threads, etc by spewing his hate of OOG conditions and then reiterating himself when people don't agree with him.

I don't agree with a lot of what he says. But him bashing the series is no worse than the fucknuggets who white knight the thing either (kind of ironic, that idea coming from a paladin, no?).

I also despise that people can't just ignore him and continue discussing what they're discussing, or quote him into a different thread to have that discussion with him (as I have done more than once with others on off topic discussions).

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paladin181 wrote:
I also despise that people can't just ignore him and continue discussing what they're discussing, or quote him into a different thread to have that discussion with him (as I have done more than once with others on off topic discussions).


This. Though I think the first is the better option. If no one replies to his obnoxiously-stated posts, he has nothing to argue back. This won't stop him from posting entirely, but it will cut down on the number significantly.

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Geneaux486
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Grumplestiltskin wrote:
This. Though I think the first is the better option. If no one replies to his obnoxiously-stated posts, he has nothing to argue back. This won't stop him from posting entirely, but it will cut down on the number significantly.


There are those of us who think that his posts, obnoxiously stated or not, are worth responding to, because, as Paladin pointed out, his observations do carry weight.

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Hazman
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Geneaux486 wrote:

There are those of us who think that his posts, obnoxiously stated or not, are worth responding to, because, as Paladin pointed out, his observations do carry weight.


Yeah, I agree that when pravado does say something useful it makes me think more about the series, and as he does know his shit about like every entry, most of his points can be solid.

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Ztakk
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Geneaux486 wrote:
Grumplestiltskin wrote:
This. Though I think the first is the better option. If no one replies to his obnoxiously-stated posts, he has nothing to argue back. This won't stop him from posting entirely, but it will cut down on the number significantly.


There are those of us who think that his posts, obnoxiously stated or not, are worth responding to, because, as Paladin pointed out, his observations do carry weight.


It's his attitude. He has a VERY elitist attitude and if someone doesn't think the same way he does, he automatically discounts what they say and verbally beats them down. Yes he might know his shit, but that's no reason to be an asshole about it.

Though I think enough about raging about someone specific.

I do have something rage about (though it's quite old). I just got the S2 DVD and tried watching the commentary on it, AND I CANNOT GET THE GOD DAMN MENU TO WORK! Like, I'll turn on the commentary and it'll just sit there, and sit, and sit, and then it'll reset, so I do it again, and it sits, sits, and sits, and then plays the normal video -_-

Anyone else have this issue?

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