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[Nathanial]

Oh another thing I just remembered... And maybe I missed something because I've only been following this series for the past 15 or so entries... But now with the tape burning a factor.. What's the deal with the missing audio in some of the entries? Are we supposed to believe Alex purposely cut the audio out of random portions?

Then there's the obvious operator distortion and all that, which makes sense.

I just get the feeling there's a bigger piece to this whole entry.. There's gotta be more of a reason to prompt Alex to delete THIS tape... That or I'm over-analyzing.

[Marble Hornets]

I always took it as Alex removed the audio from them. Given the fact that he gave the tapes directly to Jay, we can assume he's the only one that was in contact with them. He probably said some stuff on them that he didn't want Jay or anyone else hearing. The only question that brings up to me is... why remove the audio? I can't see him saying anything in entries 1 or 6 other than "why are you following me? who are you?". Things of that nature. These are things that would again, make him out to be a victim, which is what he wanted.

Then again, totheark had the missing audio for entry #10 (the video was called operator, iirc), so who knows. That fact proves that totheark had access to the tapes either before or after Alex gave them to Jay... an idea I can't see them explaining with any logical explanation

However, in the case of this entry, Jay makes a point to mention the part about Amy, so we're inclined to believe that was the important part, and the reason he burned it. He wouldn't have mentioned it otherwise. Jay likes to clue us in on things, almost to the point of saying "this is what you should take away from this entry and apply it to long term ideas"

[CraicIsMighty]

If Alex burned the tapes in order to protect Amy then Alex had nothing to lose by sending jay entry 26, because Amy had already been taken at that point. It's pretty obvious that Alex sent the tape, in entry 42 he literally said "you saw what was on the video I sent you". Unless we get more evidence to suggest otherwise, I don't think we really have any reason to think anyone other than Alex sent the tape.

As for why no one ever discusses the operator in Marble Hornets, well it seems obvious to me that it's because they don't want to acknowledge it, which seems like a pretty realistic response to me. Like in entry 42 when Alex asks jay what he was running from and Jay very reluctantly says "that thing", like it took him a lot of courage just to say it, it makes TO seem that much scarier to me. That's why Marble Hornets's Operator has always scared me more than, say, TribeTwelve's slenderman. When Noah cusses and laughs at slenderman and doesn't even act scared, I have to question why i should be scared of him when Noah, the guy being terrorized by him, doesn't even act scared.

[Xman]

Pretty cool entry. Really liked how they went back to the park at night and everything.

I still find myself wondering why Alex burned certain tapes and not others. Why he would bother letting Jay keep the tapes at all? Did he just not know there was creepy shit on those tapes in particular? He obviously had to have known, because he said "burn them." I mean, some people have the theory that he gave Jay these certain tapes and not others to make it look like he was a victim, but why? How would he have planned that if Jay was the one who asked to keep the tapes in the first place?

I don't know. It's a bit confusing to me.

[Geneaux486]

[LBfly]

The Operator is a threat yes but it never killed a stranger thinking it was Jay nor pointed a gun at him. As far as we know it doesnt even care about him. I kinda got the feeling that, by now, poor Jay is traumatized and paranoid thanks to Alex and his sudden betrayal.

[Marble Hornets]

Another thing to note:

That tape was sent to Jay in present day. If Amy sent it, that means she would have been aware of Alex's intentions, gotten away from him, and (unless she was a HUGE bitch) warned Jessica to not go near him or talk to him. However, Jessica heard from Alex afterwards and seemed surprise to hear Amy was gone, so clearly Amy went missing.

Paired up with the fact that this takes place what... 3 or 4 years before entry 26, we can assume Alex and Amy were dating for that long. It's no surprise that Alex was desperate to get her back after that long. You don't just date someone for that long and then not care when they go missing.

So what do I think? I think Alex snapped during the 7 month gap, and not before. We still don't know if Tim or Brian are entirely innocent, or if Seth's "taking" was staged or just accident after Alex asked for his help. This is going to be an alternative theory to "alex was a lunatic since the first time he met the operator"

The operator takes Amy in entry 26, for whatever reason. Alex knows Jay is investigating things and figures he's his best shot at help. He breaks Tim's leg because he thinks Tim is the one that got Jay involved (which he somewhat is, given the first time Jay encounters the operator is in "return" and Tim was the one that led him there. Either that or he blames Tim for what happened to him, also reasonable.) He tries to keep Jay at a distance so that Jay won't get involved further. He walks into the operator in entry 43 in an attempt to get teleported to wherever Amy is. Except it doesn't work, and now he's in even deeper with the operator. He also now knows that Jessica isn't going to be able to help him, so he lies and tells her to back off. His sickness gets worse from the encounter, and he comes to the conclusion he will never be left alone again. He kills Bruce in a fit of paranoia and rage, thinking he's one of the masked figures. (I'd like to note that Jay sees Bruce when he leaves the park, and then shortly after Bruce goes in to find Alex. Strange behavior if you ask me.) Shortly after this Jay breaks into his house and takes the entry 51 tape. At this point, Alex knows he has to kill anyone involved, as things have gotten way out of hand, and he knows that the operator can just make anyone he kills dissapear, so he's at no risk to get caught. So all the events that end season 2 happen, but now another question is brought up. If Alex can kill Jay anytime he wants (could have killed him at the tunnel) why didn't he? I think it's because he sees that Jay has the potential to help him, but can't directly confront him about it because the operator would get pissed. He wants to find Jay now because he believes Tim/Hoody to be dangerous, and Tim shouldn't be left alone with him.


Either all that is true, or Alex really was always a killing machine.

Btw, the biggest "dumbass Jay moment" is an ongoing one. If Alex sent him the tape in entry 26, he was obviously watching MH since it had started. Otherwise how would he know that Jay was inquiring into stuff? Most of the people I've talked to have assumed he only found out towards the end of s2

[Serum]

[Xman]

[The Condor]

[Sylocat]

[Marble Hornets]

As far as the operator appearance goes, I think he looked goofy as hell in #4, kind of like one of the chainsaw guys in resident evil 4.

The best appearance so far was in 14 (40 was also really good), but obviously they can't recreate that due to having to be on stilts. I think the problem is exactly that, if you want him to be tall, it's going to be hard as hell to move on stilts and not look goofy. (ala darkharvest school visit)


I'd love to see an entry where they stalk the operator. They find him when he doesn't realize it, and see what he does. All of a sudden his head darts towards them and they run, only to get teleported into weird areas like the hoodie shack

[gazza]

[Toadbert]

One thing I really liked is how they made this video look deliberately lower quality. I was always bugged at how the 2006 videos began with a cheaper camera that always played with the smaller frame on youtube, but lately they've been shot on the same HD camera and making them look the same as the present day videos.

I'm aware that the present day videos in season 1 looked the same as the old style too. Jay getting new cameras makes sense to me, the quality of the old videos jumping always struck me as weird.

Also, isn't there the possibility of Jay getting more off this tape? Everyone's talking about the next tape already and I was under the assumption Jay would keep working with this one.

[Sha Noran]

A lot of the posts hint at what I've been saying; that is, perhaps this entry is very interesting to us but not acturally the part of the tape that made Alex burn it. Obviously the part of the tape we see is not the whole tape. We need a second Entry from the tapes out of the distortion hole before we can fairly decide the theme of those tapes and why they were burned.