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[Beidah]

[Aram]

[Coolbro Swaggins]

Agh, so many questions here.

I'm really wondering where 22 fits in now and the more I think about it the more I think 22 is the "End" of the chronology and it's Alex attempting to kill/destroy the Operator. It's too different from when Alex brought Brian and Tim there, and Alex was calling out for Seth when the camera crashed.

I'm guessing there are more salvageable burned tapes and we'll get some questions answered.

[Geneaux486]

It's also possible that Alex didn't remember what he did to Brian or Tim until he rewatched the tapes, which would explain his genuine concern for Seth. I'm still working off the assumption that Alex is a victim in all this the same as Jay and Tim. Seems even more likely now that we know that the Operator doesn't just take away from your mind, it adds to it as well.

[dharmashark]

Can someone get screengrabs of that distortion half way through?
I could'nt make out if it was TO or Jay.
Also, I eagerly await the Pravado butthurt.

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[Spritey]

For those of you who never read Jay's original posts on SA, here's a direct copy+paste of his very first one back in 2009. Gotta love this attention to detail.

[Geneaux486]

[undervattensflugan]

[Grumplestiltskin]

I guess I'm not getting where there's an "adding to" going on. Yes, Jay remembers it differently, but what's different is the part he doesn't remember -- getting attacked.

In both sets of events we have: 1) Jay and Alex argue about the tapes, 2) Alex relents, 3) Alex acts vaguely threatening, "I mean it, don't mention these to me again," and 4) Jay gets home.

He's only not remembering the beat down. Or am I missing something crucial?

[amrith777]

This brings to mind the entry (can't remember what #) from Season One where they are in the kitchen and Tim is reading lines or something standing by the window and TO is standing outside just behind him.It's when they ask about Brian and are told he "went for snacks".At the end,Jay says that he doesn't remember ANY OF IT.

[adaminator1]

[onetruepurple]

[Geneaux486]

[TomCat]

At first, I thought that the short clip of driving at the tail end of the entry was insignificant and just something to show that Alex's tapes could have contained more stuff than just the "important" events that are relevant to the plot. However, after thinking about it some more, I'm starting to wonder if this scene is actually much more significant to the plot than it initially seemed (or as it initially seemed to me, at least).

I thought that the footage was of Alex driving in his car after attacking Jay. However, what if that was footage of Alex driving Jay's car? I don't think that this was when Alex made Jay "gone". Rather, I think that Alex, after taking a second look out his window and realizing that he had made a mistake by giving Jay the tapes, could have attacked Jay and rendered him unconscious, not with the goal of killing him or "sending him away", but rather with the intention of preventing him from immediately looking through the tapes that Alex just gave him. This could be a stretch, but I don't think it's outrageous to think that Alex could have knocked Jay out, then taken his keys and driven Jay's car (along with his unconscious body) back to Jay's house, placing Jay in his bed or something to make it seem to him like he just woke up normally the next morning, and then maybe Alex placed the bags of tapes in the back of Jay's closet, hoping that Jay would forget about the fact that he had the tapes knowing that it would be unlikely that Jay would find them if they were hidden deep in his closet. That would kind of explain the reason why it took Jay three years to find the tapes in the back of his closet, and Jay seemed somewhat surprised to find them there (or at least it seemed so by they way he mentioned it in the Introduction video). Think about it — you're Jay and you just received two bags full of tapes from a close friend of yours who told you never to speak to him about them again, in a very firm and serious manner. Do you think you would just go back home that night, place the tapes in the back of your closet yourself and then completely forget about them for three years? I don't know about you guys, but I would be far too curious to allow that to happen, and we all know that our ol' pal Jay is quite the curious cat himself.

So, while it may not be completely well-supported that Alex intended to knock Jay out and take him back to his home in order to jumble his memory in hopes of making him forget about the fact that he had received that cache of mysterious tapes from Alex just the night before, I think it stands to reason that this could have been Alex's motive. I just refuse to believe that the short clip at the end of the entry with the camera (which we know to be Alex's camera, not Jay's) pointed out the window, while an unknown driver drove an unknown car, was just some insignificant random footage that they chose to throw in there for realism's sake. I think it has a deeper meaning.