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[Jakeo]

[SPEC] Choice of Initials for Cube thieves

[Avatrix]

I like the idea, but my initial gut feeling is that it doesn't work out right. The cards don't seem to match the persons. For example, "K", the king, turns out to be female, while "Q" the queen, turns out to be male. "V", the valet, seems to be the team leader, rather than the third or fourth in rank, as the cards would dictate.

Still, I think this was a great idea to look at--something I'm sure many of us didn't know. It may yet turn into something!

[European Chris]

I think the cards being of a 'wrong' gender is something of an irrelevance, however the ranking of the cards would indicate that this may not be the right path-although the do appear to be in reverse order of what we know to be the seniority. (I've always assumed Bernardo Holyoke was least important-although I'm not sure there's any evidence to support this) The possibility of different suits sometime in the future though might provide more of a differenciation though.

However I'm in complete agreement that this was a good shout.

[Arashi]

Well, I definatly like the idea - but as the other two have said, I would tend to disagree because of the ranking.

Holyoke was pretty much a nobody, a small time fencer, where as V is "Powerful", Monica is a fairly reputable banker and "C" is.. well - C.

I'm not going to discount the idea just yet however, seeing as how everything seems to be the exact opposite of what it needs to be. (Coincidence, I think not!)

[dawh25]

I never got the feeling that they really had ranks. V was the leader, but beyond that, it seems to me that they were all on the level. If you had to rank them, my impressions are as follows.

From the way that K referred to C, I got the impression that C was either very arrogant or very inexperienced. I could be wrong, but with Holyoake in his 50s, I always looked at C as the youngest (though perhaps not least) member. Holyoake may have been a small-time fencer, but that doesn't mean that he was a nobody.

Just because someone is a small criminal doesn't mean that they don't have a significant expertise in one field or another. We believe that he was the hardware expert, and he'd have to be pretty good at what he does to complete the tasks at hand, though I admit we don't know what he did. However, the reports said that they needed a hardware and a software expert, so I wouldn't discount Holyoake as the least member. Each member was hand-picked for their experience, and even with security lax, it wasn't non-existent. Everyone was there for a reason, so I personally wouldn't say that anyone except V had any standing over anyone else.

Though, if forced to choose, I'd say:

V,K,Q,C

V was the leader. We don't know K's expertise, but with her job as an economic consultant, I'd say that she has a head for numbers and organization, and some of that experience could be useful in sychronizing events. Q, the suspected harward expert, would likely have been one of the more senior members of the group. And of course C comes last because of my impression of her as the youngest member.

Of course, conversations with TA may prove this all wrong.