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enaxor
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 		[Update] July 22
Mythosphere has been updated.

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|| mythosphere.org ||

|| End collection period, subject John Doe #06. ||


Chippy mentioned in chat that John Doe could be JD. I found that episode 6 of the series John Doe was titled "Low Art".
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 		I am supposed to be meeting with keith tomorow at noon so if it has to do wiht "low art" maybe it could be a stolen mask? In which case I would be getting that tomorrow unless keith changes the plans
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 		Update July 24th
Mythosphere update:
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|| mythosphere.org ||

Explorations into the Collective Mythological Subconscious
A study of dissociated reading and writing among subjects with various dysfunctional mental conditions . . . . . . 2006 Princeton, New Jersey

V. Patterson

|| the mythosphere ||

|| Stranger, dreams are intractable and hard to discern,
nor are they always fulfilled for men.
For double are the gates of fleeting dreams:
the one constructed of horn, the other of ivory;
and those that come through the one of sawn ivory,
they deceive, bearing unfulfilled words;
whereas those that come from the door
of polished horn,
they fulfill true things, when mortals see them. ||

|| All text and materials copyright 2006 by V. Patterson, pending publication. ||


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 		Klepsydra Mental Health Facility - Princeton, New Jersey built by Marzant but V. Patterson not listed as one of the folks there but then again not all the staff is listed.... coincidence.... I think not!
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 		JD's writings part of "The Explorations..." ?
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A study of dissociated reading and writing among subjects with various dysfunctional mental conditions . .

In this note, written by JD, he says, "They are finally letting me put pen to paper. "

[spec] Perhaps this was when JD unknowingly, became a subject of research. [/spec]

Edit to add:
As I was reading over the letters to Iris, this one says, "I (Phyillis) found his (JD's) journal. I don't want to turn it over to them yet. I've typed it up..." <snip> "I'm going to have to turn it over to them soon." ..,<snip>
So, I suppose "they" have all of JD's journal.
What I don't understand is, why is this study named on mythosphere?

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 		We don't have any proof yet that "they" are studying JD. It's really just spec right now.

And we don't have any real reason to be looking at Mythosphere - except it was part of CTW1. So far there hasn't been any linkage back to what is going on - unless we think that Mythosphere entities are working opposite of the Mystai for control of Aglaura.
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konamouse wrote:
We don't have any proof yet that "they" are studying JD. It's really just spec right now.

And we don't have any real reason to be looking at Mythosphere - except it was part of CTW1. So far there hasn't been any linkage back to what is going on - unless we think that Mythosphere entities are working opposite of the Mystai for control of Aglaura.


I am pretty sure mythosphere wouldn't be updated if it was irelevant. A lot of the things said on the site play into what we are doing. It doesn't mention JD specifically but also think about Phyllis suddenly dropping everything and running to Princeton! Perhaps she knows something we don't
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It doesn't mention JD specifically but also think about Phyllis suddenly dropping everything and running to Princeton! Perhaps she knows something we don't


I am thinking about that.

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 		a small correction
enaxor wrote:
Killalaz wrote:
Does anyone know the name of the painting at mythosphere.com/soon.html
I am going crazy trying to find it anywhere!


Thank drizjr for this, she's the one who found it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dore-empyrean.jpg


The soon image is found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_Dor%C3%A9 and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Paradiso_Canto_31.jpg

Titled: "The Empyrean", illustration to the Divine Comedy

And More Properly comes from here http://dore.artpassions.net/
and is located here http://www.artpassions.net/cgi-bin/dore_image.pl?../galleries/dore/paradisio34x.jpg

And for a divine read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Divine_Comedy

Which bears resemblence to Dale's July 24 entry
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Which, it finally dawned on me, may be just what whoever made the combined 307 / map image was hinting at, with the second black dot outside the main 307 circle. If you look at those two things and imagine a second 307 ring around the first one on the Aglaura map, and then the circle on the map on the right, it almost looks like rings of a wave in a pond, after someone tossed a stone into it.

With all the mention of The Circles of Hell, The Terraces of Purgatory and the spehers of Paradiso.

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 		[UPDATE] More Info On John Doe!!!
Back on the original Mythosphere page you can click on || Contents || and it opens up more choices.
|| Collective Unconscious || Myths and Archetypes || Subject: John Doe #06 ||

|| Location: Klepsydra Mental Health Facility, Princeton, NJ ||
|| Interviewer: V. Patterson ||
|| Condition of subject: Initial assessment of Global Transient Amnesia, possibly traumatically induced; no signs of alcohol or drug abuse, or W-K Psychosis ||

||Information||
||Source Materials|| and ||Analysis|| are still broken.

Click on ||Interviews|| and all the links will get this information about John Doe#6:

V. Patternson's Notes wrote:
Began planned protracted interaction with subject John Doe #06 in April, 2006, at Klepsydra Mental Facility in Princeton, New Jersey. Subject chosen after initial pre-screenings by Klepsydra personnel showed extensive capability for normal reading and writing functions, despite seriously impaired social and cognitive skills. Unusual subject history also factored into selection process – subject found unconscious and suffering from extreme GT Amnesia in remote wooded area, exhibiting signs of severe malnutrition, dehydration, paranoia, and delirium.

Pre-interaction preparation included complete review of all existing medical and psychological records as well as results of minimally invasive neurological testing. Due to subject's status as a "John Doe" ward of the state, permission was assigned by Klepsydra's Medical Director, acting on authority granted him by the existing laws of the State of New Jersey.

Per arrival at facility, reading materials were delivered to the subject by arrangement with the Klepsydra staff. Standard collection of pre-interaction material included works of diverse subject matter and of all reading levels.

Within a week of meeting the subject and starting initial observation and minimal interaction, he began writing on a regular basis. Although largely unresponsive to medical and other facility personnel, subject appeared extremely interested in and responsive to written materials provided. Consequently, a large portion of initial work done after arrival included collection and analysis of written materials, all created by the subject since the time reading materials were made available to him.


Portions of writing sample 0600231 wrote:
Somehow, in an unexplainable way, I know it has begun. Memory becomes prophesy, recollection becomes fantasy, prophesy becomes reality, mythology imbues it all. ||

What I was, what I am, what am I? || Never can I make the memory stay.

Six voices speak to me, a different voice and purpose to each. || Six faces I see before me, the last vestiges of a fading truth. || Six tongues, six messages, one reality.

All of this will soon be gone. ||


Samples excerpted from transcript of oral interview 0600072 wrote:
"I've often heard it said that mythology is always based on reality somehow, that myths were ancient man's way of explaining things in the real world he couldn't otherwise understand. I think it is precisely the reverse; our reality is based on our mythology. The world is as we believe it to be." || "Now all of these myths that you have heard and that resonate with you, those are the elements from round about that you are building into a form in your life. The thing worth considering is how they relate to each other in your context, not how they relate to something out there - how they were relevant on the North American prairies or in the Asian jungles hundreds of years ago, but how they are relevant now - unless by contemplating their former meaning you can begin to amplify your own understanding of the role they play in your life." ||


Transcript from oral interview 0600075 wrote:
Mount Olympus, with its summit reaching all the way into the aether, has secrets as silent as those contained in our modern day photography equipment. In fact, under the right conditions, one of those secrets will make itself known to man. The Olympus camera has actually been de-signed to allow the exposure of the mythological aspects in the world today, those taking place right beneath your noses. But for optimal exposure, you must trust, accept and sense the aether.


Poem read and given to John Doe #06 as Subject Material W033, which he learned and began repeating incessantly within 3 hours. wrote:

NIGHT, parent goddess, source of sweet repose,
From whom at first both Gods and men arose,
Hear, blessed Venus, deck'd with starry light,
In sleep's deep silence dwelling Ebon night!
Dreams and soft case attend thy dusky train,
Pleas'd with the length'ned gloom and feaftful strain.
Dissolving anxious care, the friend of Mirth,
With darkling coursers riding round the earth.
Goddess of phantoms and of shadowy play,
Whose drowsy pow'r divides the nat'ral day:
By Fate's decree you constant send the light
To deepest hell, remote from mortal sight
For dire Necessity which nought withstands,
Invests the world with adamantine bands.
Be present, Goddess, to thy suppliant's pray'r,
Desir'd by all, whom all alike revere,
Blessed, benevolent, with friendly aid
Dispell the fears of Twilight's dreadful shade.


Writing sample 0600241 discovered the day after subject was exposed to W033. wrote:
"See the rustic in the Moon, How his bundle weighs him down, Thus his sticks the truth reveal, It never profits man to steal." || te Waltere docebo cur spinas phebo gero || Logenaers niesdaet an doen, Dat si hem willen tien ane, Date tie ridder metter swane Siere moeder vader was. No wijt no man, als ict vernam Ne was noint swane, daer hi af quam Als ist dat hem Brabanters beroemen Dat si van der Swane sijn coemen. ||

My name is Elias Grail || like the moon, I wane and wax.


SPEC by Grumpyboy in chat, could John Doe #6 = Wes????
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Secondly, the question of what really happened with Wes Keeler is a good one. He died in a car accident a few years ago, but there were a lot of issues raised which were never really answered, at least to my satisfaction. I don't know what really happened, or if I'm just imagining a conspiracy there, but it's something I've wondered about often.


I took that from this thread http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=248918

So since we don't know the exact details of his death then perhaps he is not dead after all? That would certainly explain a few things wouldn't it? Is it possible someone "wished" him back to life? Except he returned a shadow of his former self mentally scarred and damaged? I think it is possible.
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 		I'm confused.
I've searched for these two bits of info, but can't find anything:

1) Who is behind The Mythosphere and why would they be hosting info about a Klepsydra patient?
a) Someone who works at Klepsydra and is posting this patient info as part of a hobby/religion/for pay
b) Someone who has clandestinely gained access to the patient info

2) Info about anyone found in the woods in early April. Seems like there should be something somewhere about it. Have I missed something? I've asked Sam for Dawn's email address and will see if she might have any info about "my friend's missing uncle".
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 		Click on Information:
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|| Collective Unconscious || Myths and Archetypes || Subject: John Doe #06 ||
Collective Uncounscious:
COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS: A theory put forward by psychologist Carl Jung which states that there exists a universal human consciousness which holds the collective memories, experiences, and wisdom of the human race, and which certain people are able to tap.
Carl Jung
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Myths and Achetypes:
The word myth is derived from the Greek mythos , which originally meant anything uttered. It progressively came to mean narrative and, in a more limited sense still, a tale with religious overtones about the creation of the world and humanity, involving the adventures of gods. Even later on, the term connoted something unreal, or only true in part.
Archetypal images include symbols that occur in mythology, fairytales and religions. They are older than mankind and belong to the collective uncon-scious. Archetypal images are symbols that represent contents within the psyche that were never conscious experiences

Subjecct Jon Doe #6:
|| Location: Klepsydra Mental Health Facility, Princeton, NJ ||
|| Interviewer: V. Patterson ||
|| Condition of subject: Initial assessment of Global Transient Amnesia, possibly traumatically induced; no signs of alcohol or drug abuse, or W-K Psychosis ||

Analysis & Source Material still not working.... and I 'assume' you all noticed that many of the others are what were originally on m1, etc Wink
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 		before I read the spec from grumpyboy, I was thinking the same thing. This seems more like Wes than JD.
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 		Has anyone tried sending this stuff to Dale? He may find it interesting espiecially since it now mentions almost the same phrase he heard in his dream. Perhaps whoever is behind Mythosphere owns klepsydra? I am assuming the who or whatever is behind the mythosphere is pretty powerful and influential so I doubt it would be too hard for them to obtain records from klepsydra even if they have no connection.
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