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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?

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SHNIPE
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Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Posts: 43

Re: new clue??

highwayrobbery wrote:

ok i have posted the audio i got from the trailer here. it also seems like they don't say jason (although this could just be a result of the audio being panned to another channel right when he says it).

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=53ho32r

any thoughts? has anyone else tried to deconstruct the audio in another program?

definitely says FLOODING in the subway

Anybody seen janice?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:42 pm

Almijisti
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JimmieBJr wrote:

[*snip*

Generally, ARGS don't deal with the core of the movies - the big thing or event. They deal with something off to the side that the movie might mention obliquely but that has an important impact on the world in which the movie takes place....

*snip*

So, involved in the movie world but not really a fundamental part of the plot.

That gives me a pretty good reason to believe that whatever these clues might point to, it won't be the monster attack on New York. It might lead to a backstory about Rob and the origins of the monster, but not directly as such. Making sense so far?

*snip*

So perhaps if we're going to consider the timestamp/trailer time coincidences a clue worth pursuing, we should look "around" what is happening. Maybe there's something that's obvious, but we've been overlooking because the "important" parts of the trailer have been occupying our attention.

Not having played any ARGs before, I can't know if what you say is true, but it makes sense, unless they are attempting to take a gigantic risk and have the entire storyline online, leaving the film to be a vignette--problem with that is they'd restrict their audience to the relatively few people who are patient enough to keep up with the ARG.

Whatever ARG there is here is probably intended to give a back story, though. If this is all vids, then we aren't likely to see Japan, or indeed anything before or after the "best night ever". Someone, however, will have to say something in the film about what's going on--a bunch of people running around a series of explosions does not sound like a recipe for a plot.

Finding clues is not going to require $700 a/v software, or indeed, anything that most users don't already have with a basic Mac or Windows set up. The possible exception is an apparent tie-in with Apple, which might mean more clues are available to iPhone and/or iPod owners somehow. As for any clues in foreign languages--which I read were used in TLE--anyone can find a translation of just about anything using the web.

The handful of geekazoids with the temperment and skills to find anything at a true crptographic level is not at all worth the expense of putting this together (unless BadRobot is run by a bunch of numbnuts). Anagrams, especially of larger words, yield so many results that they are worse than useless since they send people on too many wild goose chases. Significant anagrams are typically only apparent after you know the words to look for, making them of little value, if any.

All that said, slusho was launched a while ago and has only undergone very minor changes since the downloads were made available--mostly just tweaks and adding the TM on logos. I suspect that if there is really nothing there yet, then this is not an ARG as I understand them to be, or it hasn't started yet, as Nighthawk believes.

Playing with the sounds is relatively easy to do with free, open source software, like Audacity. On the other hand, I don't know of any way to rip the soundtrack from a .mov file. If that's an easy thing to do then a) playing with the sound may actually be important; b) tell me how to do it. If ripping the sounds requires something sophisticated, I doubt that there's anything to be gained by spending hours on it.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:05 am

digger
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OOG or not?

AfterDystopia wrote:

Kaleihoku wrote:

After reading through the eye-bleeding 245 pages of this thread, with rumors debunked and little gained, I've finally got something to share that I don't think I've seen. I've been lurking for a few days and this is what I have:

http://ccs.cla.kobe-u.ac.jp/GenBun/ny/ny.html

This seems to be a personal page at Kobe University's website for Noriko Yoshida.

The first thing to catch my eye is the URL... If this is OOG, why is it so simple? Most student pages on university sites are complicated because of the number of students (and Kobe is not a small school). Also, I tried several other 2-letter combinations in the subdirectory and the title of the page, and "ny" is the only one coming up.

I've got to head to work so I can't babelfish it, but it's worth trying.

~K

EDIT: Credit goes to Arthur at the We Were the Cool Kids blog, I snagged this from him, who snagged it from someone else.
http://wewerethecoolkids.blogspot.com/

Sorry, it's already been brought up.

I'm pretty sure its OOG.

Is it OOG?

1. The ny/ny URL is suspicious Noriko Yoshi=NY, but the doubled ny/ny, given the nyc location of the film clip, catches my attention.

2. The searchable page translates (thank you babelfish):

Distribution data

<International>
Previous term Month 2 Visual cultural theory
* The password is input into form below,
Please push "the Click" button

Although it asks for a password, it's a search box, searching only the /GenBun/ny/ directory

3. The Matisse, whale and all...

4. The name Satoshi appears on her Research Achievement page:

' The Shogakukan Inc. French harmony large dictionary ', large New Year's greeting happiness, Takeshi Satoshi Takahashi, Nakagawa Hisashi fixed other compilation, Shogakukan Inc., 1988 (revising charge)

Of course, the big problem is that this Noriko certainly doesn't sound like the Noriko in the Slusho! history.

One more thing...any context for "Zola Game"? There's a reference to it in the first entry under Research Achievement

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:14 am

KLind
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007
Posts: 928
Location: Columbus, Ohio

Re: OOG or not?

digger wrote:

AfterDystopia wrote:

Kaleihoku wrote:

Sorry, it's already been brought up.

I'm pretty sure its OOG.

That leads me to believe this might be in game...

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:41 am

MrToasty
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Joined: 03 Aug 2004
Posts: 4310
Location: Des Moines, IA

Re: OOG or not?

KLind wrote:

digger wrote:

AfterDystopia wrote:

Kaleihoku wrote:

Sorry, it's already been brought up.

I'm pretty sure its OOG.

That leads me to believe this might be in game...

It's posted on a university, i.e. ACADEMIC, website (.ac.jp). This would be like using a .edu TLD in the US. IT'S OOG.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:10 am

robotkarateman
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Joined: 15 Jul 2007
Posts: 39

Almijisti wrote:

Not having played any ARGs before, I can't know if what you say is true, but it makes sense

It's true. If you're new to ARGs, there's a link right up at the top left that says

Quote:

New players, PLEASE read these guidelines and SEARCH before posting. You may wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial as well.

It's there because it's very informative. It's almost like they wanted new players to read it before playing or something.

Almijisti wrote:

Playing with the sounds is relatively easy to do with free, open source software, like Audacity. On the other hand, I don't know of any way to rip the soundtrack from a .mov file.

It's relatively easy to do with any windows setup.

1. Open your Volume Control panel. Select "Properties".

2. Under "Adjust Volume For" check "Recording".

3. Check the "Stereo Mixer", uncheck everything else, especially the microphone. This makes all recording software treat your internal sound as the input device.

4. Go to Programs->Accessories->Entertainment and run the "Sound Recorder." Hit the record button while watching the movie. Save your sound when you're done.

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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:22 am

Frontal_Lobotomy
Guest

xxaltruismandme wrote:

This may have been mentioned, but whatever.

It seems weird to me that even though the trailer is so basic (they don't mention the title or anything or have credits in the theatrical trailer) they still showed the bad robot thing. or, you know what, that doesn't even matter. in any case,

could clues be hidden at badrobot.com? I thought it was worth a look, so i went to badrobot.com and all it is is a picture..... isn't that strange? A production company with no real website?

At the bottom of the page there's blank space that's highlightable (as if it was black text on the background? When i highlighted it and pasted it into a word document, it was just a bunch of squares.

the source has a lot of stuff that i don't see having a point on a page with just a picture?

what do you guys think?

(we think you don't need the bold font -- catherwood)

I just checked out the source code and found this

"<if><xml>
<o>
<o>Athena Wickham</o>
<o>Normal</o>
<o>Athena Wickham</o>"

Its code talking about someone named Athena Wickham updating the site I suppose...so I googled her name and found her on IMDb, she's the assistant to JJ Abrams, could mean something, I'm not really sure though, and the "if gte mso 9" is rather odd as well...

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:22 am

suckaH
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Joined: 25 Jul 2007
Posts: 672

Re: Possible anagram?

Melampus wrote:

suckaH wrote:

scaremongerR wrote:

i can't remember if anyone sent "it's alive! it's huge!" through an anagram server... but this caught my attention...

Geisha Lute Visit

probably nothing at all, but Rob is going to Japan, Geisha are Japanese, and the Lute is a Japanese instrument. maybe just odd coincidence...

Ok i am new so many of you may not take this with any grain of salt. Nonetheless...
I have been scouring over these pages since the trailer came out (along with many other forums), and this anagram idea caught my attention. I worked on it for awhile, and may have found something.
An anagram for "I saw it, it's alive and it's huge" can equated to "I guessed it, i saw Leviathan" or "I saw it, I guessed Leviathan." Take it as mere coincidence, but I think that is quite a big find, especially to those who are rooting for this to be Behemoth, Leviathan, and Ziz.
I also apologize if this has been discussed before.

Hi, I'm new too. Very sorry if this is stale, but...

People keep trying to find anagrams of the line, "I saw it, it's alive, it's huge!" But, the line sure sounds like "We saw it, it's alive, it's huge!" - a trivial distinction in terms of story, but not in terms of an anagram. Listen to the line again in the trailer.

I listened to the line again and I can very distinctly hear "I." Honestly, I don't see how it could be construed as "we," it is very pronunciated and clear.
People, please answer my question. If this is nothing, fine...but it could be a find. Not as big as the, say, movie poster that has been revealed/located but a find nonetheless.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:51 am

Kai Orion
Guest

NO!!!
NOt ziz or wateva

Look, this has already been confirmed not ziz, leviathan and stuff, that this is original. That's just pure happenstance. i doubt the scriptor would write a line, turn it into an anagram and use the anagram as the line. Sure, it's interesting and funny but has nothing to do with the story line.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:24 am

suckaH
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Joined: 25 Jul 2007
Posts: 672

Re: new clue??

highwayrobbery wrote:

Nice find. I doubt that JJA would encrypt something within the audio that is this minute, but it is something to build off of.
The phrase "in the subway" is definitely present, which is odd. Although I suppose it's plausible that people would be flocking to the subway to escape the monster, I would be very wary of getting on the subway in the presense of chaos. That being said, the phrase about the subway wouldn't be yelled in the sense that someone is saying that he is boarding the subway, more that what is going on has something tied in with the subway. Maybe whatever creature it is has destroyed a piece of the subway?
And who the hell is this janice? That REALLY doesn't sound like he's saying jason to me...

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:20 am

Locohoco
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Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Posts: 85
Location: England

Actually I hear Jeff, I've listened to it several times now, and I tried to hear Janice, but in my opinion its definitely Jeff.

And like the guy a few posts ago said, I think it says 'flooding in the subway'.

Could be wrong about both though.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:25 am

Kayberry
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Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 295

Frontal_Lobotomy wrote:

I just checked out the source code and found this
"<if><xml>
<o>
<o>Athena Wickham</o>
<o>Normal</o>
<o>Athena Wickham</o>"
Its code talking about someone named Athena Wickham updating the site I suppose...so I googled her name and found her on IMDb, she's the assistant to JJ Abrams, could mean something, I'm not really sure though, and the "if gte mso 9" is rather odd as well...

Let's see, revising what I had posted about 200 pages back which would have been found if you had searched for it, Athena Wickham used to appear in credits as Assistant to J.J. Abrams; however J.J. promoted her and another individual to Producer when things were switching over to Bad Robot Productions; and that if this was an ARG that J.J. was running then Wickham would know everything that J.J. knows about it, implying that we could use her name as an avenue for more contact information.

And the scripting on the page is vector markup, used for being read within Microsoft Word to display the Bad Robot image, it seems.

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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:57 am

by_monster
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Monstrous

I wonder if the "monster" is in www.monstrous.com?

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:13 am

SisBear
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Posts: 158

Re: new clue in trailer??
Didn't know you could do that with Quicktime...

The Stray wrote:

highwayrobbery wrote:

so i downloaded the HD quicktime file from apple and dragged it into final cut pro. this gave me a video file with 4 tracks of audio, which you can listen to separately. now, since the video is in surround sound, each track has different sounds on it from the mix.

the main track has the man saying "i saw it!! it's alive!! it's huge!!". when i mute that track, i no longer hear it's huge at the end, and now i hear:

"i saw it! it's alive!"

and another person says "in the subway!" (possibly "it's in the subway!").

i will try to upload the audio file (any recommendations on a good site to upload to?) but can anyone make anything of this?

While you're at it, could you do me a favor and check to see if there's an isolated track or if you can even hear that woman's voice saying "They Live" right at the start of the first roar. I know it's been mentioned on here before but that is definitely what I hear and I'm not really prone to hearing things that aren't really there. I personally have played that section a number or times and have had several other people listen and confirm it as well. I'm not sure what THAT MEANS exactly in relation to anything really. It only seems to imply that whatever THEY are there are more than one of them...

Maybe we can figure out if she's saying "They Live" or "The Myth", because I'm still hearing "The Myth".

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:56 am

sea_dot
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Joined: 13 Jul 2007
Posts: 58

Re: new clue??

SHNIPE wrote:

highwayrobbery wrote:

definitely says FLOODING in the subway

Anybody seen janice?

I'll say it again. I hear too many syllables for it to be "Jeff" "Janet" or "Jason." I hear "jettison." As in something thrown overboard or ditched- piece of junk, like the SOL head. This wouldn't make any sense unless whoever was saying it saw that it had something that it was about to chuck at them or if the guy was in the Navy/Air Force or something, but that's what I hear.

Even if that's not the word, I've never heard that guy say Jason- there are pretty clearly three syllables (unless he's stuttering). The girl does, however, say "Jason!" Any three-syllable J names? It doesn't sound like "Jennifer," but there is a girl's name "Jessalyn," which sounds a bit like "jettison." Anything else?

ETA: Jameson

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:19 am
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