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Theory. Could Be Possible. Please Discuss.
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McPhearson
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Theory. Could Be Possible. Please Discuss.

I've always had an odd theory, and after seeing Tagruato.jp, I really have come to believe it even more so.

It was always my opinion that, since the character Rob was moving to Japan, that he was going to work with Slusho! in some form or fashion. I apparently was not the only one who thought this; in fact, it's practically been confirmed that that assumption is correct.

However, then I began to think, other than the Slusho.jp references to "growing to the size of a whale", there HAD to be a deeper reason that Slusho! was connected with this "Cloverfield" film. And throwing together what people were saying, about the monster sounding like a whale, the monster rising from the sea, the Bloop! theory, and everything, I came up with the following:

Look at the Tagruato Corp. website's page "Deep Sea Drilling". It speaks of the fourteen drilling rigs set up to find the "natural resources that lie below the ocean floor". Note, the plural "resources". We can assume that while oil and petroleum may be within this pluralized category, another one of these "resources" may be the "deep sea nectar" (aka the mysterious deep sea ingredient) used in the drink Slusho!. The newest rig, Chuai Station, opened in the Mid-Atlantic Range this month, September 2007. Perhaps this new production rig is how Rob catches wind of the job possibilities that eventually lead him to Japan. I'm not here to discuss that today.

But what I do want to look at is this: on the same "Drilling" page, the website says that, thanks to these rigs, Tagruato is "Capable of excavation at distances exceeding 7,000 meters of water and 9,200 meters of seabed, the greatest depths of the oceans have been opened for business".

Look at that again: "the greatest depths of the oceans". What if, they went so far deep into the ocean, depths that had yet to be explored until now, that they awoke the Creature that later attacks New York in "Cloverfield"?

Huh? What if the creature was not so much created through Slusho!, as is the common rumor nowadays, but rather, the mining for a Slusho! ingredient simply awoke the creature? That would not only make more sense (what with the scientific studies showing that large prehistoric beasts may still exist in the depths), but it would clearly show the relation between the Slusho! beverage and the Monster of "Cloverfield".

What do you think about that? Please, give your thoughts.

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Wakkadude21
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I like it. OMG! It's the Surface Movie!

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McPhearson
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I haven't seen that movie, to be honest. Nevertheless, so far, this theory makes the most sense to me. ... However, I may be bias. It is, after all, my theory.

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Yeah, it makes since, but it seems a tad simple if the drilling is the only reason for the monster. JJ seems like he'd go for something more complex than that. I almost wouldn't be suprised to see some sort of Global Warming theme, like Day after Tomorrow with a giant monster instead of an Ice Age.

If he's trying to give us "our own monster", which in my head means a series, I don't think drilling alone makes a good reason for a monster.

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Uh, sure...
Nobody has discussed anything related to this theory ever before.
Not a chance, but what do I know?
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McPhearson
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You could be right there, MJames. Maybe the drilling isn't the only thing behind the Monster's rampage. I was simply trying to bring a connection between Tagruato and "Cloverfield" together.

But global warming? You think he would try to tie that, of all things, in to this?

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keeno_82uk
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came to the same conclusion myself.

I thought when i saw the deep sea drilling page that the company must have awoken the beast either by stealing its "mojo" to make slusho or just irritated it (maybe even killed one of it's kind).

I see ppl talking about global warming... maybe the deep sea creature has been entombed in ice for ages and was melting, but the drill ensured it's escape by breaking the ice? Or just woke up once the ice melted to find neighbours making that awful noise and went to investigate lol

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Well, as Euchre rather bluntly pointed out, this has been something he's been discussing for a long time, this being a "whale" of sorts (though he later says that such a theory is flawed because of size versus oxygen consumption).

My theory has less to do with "What this friggin' thing is", so much as it has to do with what you, Keeno, were saying: how and why it came to attack the Big Apple. I was simply thinking of a way to tie Slusho!, the deep sea nectar, and "Cloverfield" together; this was the theory that made the most sense to me. After all, it's been said that the MySpace pages were established, so as to allow us to watch as the characters slowly reach the Night-In-Question. Do not be surprised if Rob mentions a Chuai in a blog in the coming months.

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Heh, don't take it too hard.
I don't so much rule out that it could be prehistoric, just that it'd have to be dormant in a way that would mean it wouldn't need oxygen. Think of the frozen mammoths that have been found, but in this case the creature would have to have avoided actually freezing yet not suffer decay. The depths of the ocean alone can do that to some degree. Maybe the DSI is what helped preserve our beasty, or is what allows the creature to revive and rise again from the depths?
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Euchre wrote:
Maybe the DSI is what helped preserve our beasty, or is what allows the creature to revive and rise again from the depths?


Yeah, the DSI used in Slusho! has to either come from or effect the monster, or there wouldn't be a need for the frozen drink in this movie at all... well, unless JJ has been itching to bring it back after referencing once in an episode of Alias years ago, and just really wants to make a frozen drink for all of us to consume (that evil capitalist monster Wink )



McPhearson wrote:
But global warming? You think he would try to tie that, of all things, in to this?


It seems to be the big issue of our time, and just as Godzilla was fueled by ideas of Nuclear Waste and the fears/science of the time, a monster that's "our ... monster" would need to be fueled or related to a modern issue. It adds the longevity factor that as long as the issue is relavant, so is "our ... monster".

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iconsumer
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How about this... from my other thread in case no one bothered to check it out :

iconsumer wrote:
Short and sweet.

Slusho has been referenced many times IG as giving people more strength and spirit, correct?

Between the Slusho site and Tagruato we know that the ingredient in Slusho is found on the sea floor, or maybe even below the ocean floor.

The Tagruato site has mentioned rigs everywhere (not necessarily just oil... do they even specify specifically that they are oil?), with one being built relatively near NYC.

We can surmise that they are drilling / farming the ingredient needed for Slusho, correct?

The Tagruato site also mentions them upgrading their ships to be double hulled (thus alluding to oil spills of past).

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SO, what if what happens is after drilling a lot of the deep sea ingredient, and upon transferring it away from the oil rig, a tanker hits an iceberg, or runs aground, etc. etc. and a massive amount of the deep sea ingredient (concentrated consumable power) flows into the ocean... the sea life then consumes it, and wackiness ensues. Shocked


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keeno_82uk
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aaah, so these deep sea creatures gulp down the slusho rejuvinating ingredient, mutating them because they have overdosed the six limit, making them abnormal and able to surface the ocean, evolving and seeking new prey then that of what it was used to on the ocean floor, us humans. Sounds plausable.

but, i'm guessing the special ingredient is in liquid form (how else would these deep sea creatures ingest the ingredient). If so, it would not have the density to fall back to the bottom of the ocean, unless its density was greate then that of water. (excuse my science)

seems like a good theory though

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What about this theory

Maybe the Cloverfield monster is an actually an alien. Perhaps many eons ago, a civilization from another galaxy banished this monster from their planet sending the creature off into space encased in a capsule filled with a liquid sedative and this capsule crash lands in the Atlantic Ocean. Cut to the present….a company discovers flora in the deepest part of the ocean that secretes an edible, flavorful and intoxicating compound that has health benefits and no side effects. No one realizes that these plants are actually the result of from a leak in the alien creature's ancient capsule; and the sedative in the capsule mutates surrounding aquatic plant life to create the secret ingredient used in Slusho. The drilling rigs accidentally drill to deep and puncture the creatures capsule. The creature wakes up and follows a scent trail back to New York City, sees and oil tanker, and tosses it into Midtown Manhattan. Then it sees the Statue of Liberty and tears the head off the statue and launches it into Manhattan. Then it reaches the island , and all hell breaks loose. Ha, what an imagination I have. Laughing

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Re: What about this theory

rjharris1960 wrote:
Maybe the Cloverfield monster is an actually an alien. Perhaps many eons ago, a civilization from another galaxy banished this monster from their planet sending the creature off into space encased in a capsule filled with a liquid sedative and this capsule crash lands in the Atlantic Ocean. Cut to the present….a company discovers flora in the deepest part of the ocean that secretes an edible, flavorful and intoxicating compound that has health benefits and no side effects. No one realizes that these plants are actually the result of from a leak in the alien creature's ancient capsule; and the sedative in the capsule mutates surrounding aquatic plant life to create the secret ingredient used in Slusho. The drilling rigs accidentally drill to deep and puncture the creatures capsule. The creature wakes up and follows a scent trail back to New York City, sees and oil tanker, and tosses it into Midtown Manhattan. Then it sees the Statue of Liberty and tears the head off the statue and launches it into Manhattan. Then it reaches the island , and all hell breaks loose. Ha, what an imagination I have. Laughing



Reminiscent of Linciln Chld's book Deep Storm, I dont want to give away the ending but they found something deep in the crust started wreaking havoc on the undewater environment etc etc dont want togive awaythe ending but pick it up a good interesting book.

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i'm thinking the dude is a chef working on ways to get this DSI into stuff other than drinks, hence the new picture. however, he also happens to be a new yorker where the attack happens, so it's a nice way for the writers to tie the different plot lines together.

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