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[Eleven72]

[spete444]

there is some highly explosive stuff in some of these carts..that they explode on impact..it seems to only be the mid section of this train that blows up..and for that beam with numbers i see (i2147064)

[LockNLoad]

Why do we assume that whatever is in the train car is being held in there against its will??? Nowhere in the trailer does it say anything about it being a captive, maybe it's just too large, too ugly, and too unpredictable to have it travel by means that could bring it in close proximity to humans (ET meets The Hulk?). This could explain why this thing did not try to escape before the crash (it was just chilling reading a newspaper when BOOM). Also looking at the train door there is no locks securing the door in any way, uncle Sam likes to use locks to keep things secure.

Just as an aside, can someone explain how the door on the train opens??? If you look at it, the round handle operates the bars (green lines) and the bars are on the door tracks, but if you turn the handle... the bars do what??? And the door itself is flush with the car (blue lines) so how it does slide down the door rails??? And the car does have door stops for a sliding door, (red lines) I just don't see how it all works together.

[Eleven72]

[tMan930]

[Eleven72]

[slinkydge]

21 70.64

[James M]

Re: 21 70.64

[slinkydge]

yes, I agree on the nuclear thing... I've seen some speculation about links to China nuclear weapons and some German website...

[spete444]

Check google sky you will prolly not find much but stars are nice

[hiawassee]

Have some thoughts on the driver of the truck.

First, I'm not sure if he's yet been explored at all, but Thomas Edwin Castello is supposedly another man who was working and present during the Dulce Wars. He knew a lot of information (though not very high clearance due to his position) and he wanted the info exposed. As mentioned in various articles he smuggled media and info from the facility in order to expose the goings-on. He made copies and sent them out to trusted friends to be hidden away for later exposure. He was determined to get the word out on the horrible things going on at the Area 51 facilities. Motive for trying to stop the train?

Afterward he was being sought for punishment--most probably death--for what he did, so he ran. It's said he's been on the run for years. Interestingly, I found a very lengthy forum thread supposedly done (by a friend of Castello's) so that he can answer any and all questions possible because he's been diagnosed with terminal cancer. Reason to go to any length--even suicide--now to stop the projects?

[article with interviews with Castello about Area 51 and Dulce - http://www.conspiration.cc/sujets/ovni/castello_dulce.html ]
[the forum set up for Q&A after terminal cancer announcement - http://www.alien-ufos.com/ufo-alien-discussions/21550-terminally-ill-thomas-edwin-castello-speaks-out.html ]

Another side note, not sure if anyone else noticed while trying to figure out whether the driver jumped from the car or not before impact... I've been rewatching that part and am wondeirng about what may be hitting the ground directly after impact to the left of the train. It's a decent size subject matter, flops down kind of like something organic like a man would, and there's a noise like a man yelling but it doesn't sound the same as the radio transmissions from before I don't think. I'm not sure. But I don't have a program to play with the video and slow it down or anything, so if anyone else sees anything going on?

[Mikeyj]

Pretty sure that the paper you found isn't relevant I'm afraid. I think google ignored the space and just picked up 2170.64 which is going to be in plenty of scientific papers. Even if not it looks like the number is a parameter for the equipment being used in that paper (I'll try and get access tomorrow through a uni server) rather than anything specificially to do with something nuclear

Check out this post [link] in the trailer analysis thread which may have hit the nail on the head for what those numbers mean.

slinkydge, could you make your thread titles a bit more descriptive, it helps new players (and the forgetful like me) work out what they're about. Tag them with a general label too [Posting Guide]

I'm going to merge this in with the trailer analysis thread as I think that's the logical place for it

[Saiyan King]

[Tenshi Akui]

I was thinking, what if the explosion didn't come from the train? What if there was something in the truck that prompted the explosion. I don't remember seeing the truck bed clearly. If this was a planned derailment and not a suicide, it would make sense.

[crackdownjr]