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**Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:12 pm

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Toast · Boot Joined: 17 Oct 2003 Posts: 40

I'll get one of the other designs, but not the girl one...that picture just freaks me out for some reason.

The Wired Reality one sounds good.

**Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:29 pm

WedgeGold

**Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:37 pm

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What one would you liek to see Toast?

**Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:38 pm

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ArchGod

Alright. It took me about an hour and a half to get it mostly done, but I finished the Abnormal Research Group T-shirt concept. Sorry, but I still can't figure out how to attach a pic to this post. So unless someone tells me how to do it, you are just going to have to pm me and I will send it to you via email (JPG unless specified). My roomate thinks it looks tight, and I am sure that most of you will like the concept as well.

By the way, put out some ideas and I will see what I can create.

[Edt] Aah haah. I got it, thnks omnie. This pic is not on the shirt, because the one on the shirt looked like shizer. Enjoy.

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**Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:25 pm

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katgirl · Boot Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 17 Location: New Zealand

I don't see why the PMs would have to wait until the end of the game to make a little money. Surely selling merchandise through wongmo's site would look authentic, absolutely in the spirit of Wongmo I think. Also I think by now we're all convinced the PMs aren't in this for money or as a scam so hopefully there wouldn't be any ethical fallout from that type of action?

**Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:39 pm

Azathoth666

My concern is fallout from the WBs, or more specifically, Warner Brothers. the Metacortex logo, the matrix themes this all hinges on, the concept of an "Agent"... that's all copyright... and if it turns out that the PMs do have official backing on this (NOTE: I don't want to resurrect that debate. We won't know until the end..) you can bet that Warner Bros will kick anyone's ass if copyright is being infringed.

Hence my "donate-proceeds-to-charity" arguement... at least you can take the moral high-ground there.

**Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:08 pm

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**Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:23 pm

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**Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:31 pm

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I figure I will start working on one of my other t-shirt ideas tomorrow, when I actually have time to just sit at the computer for a couple of hours. Ahh, Isn't it nice to have an easy day (very rare) at the Air Force Academy.

**Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:46 pm

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AnthraX101 · Entrenched Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 797

**Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:10 pm

ArchGod

But isn't there a difference between symbols, logos, or quotes and computer downloads. I could be wrong, but with mp3s, the bands are trying to sell it for a profit. If you take it and then give it away for free it becomes illegal because the bands aren't getting their share of the profits for you taking over promoting their stuff. We aren't taking anything that the WB's are trying to sell. On the contrary, we would actually be advertising for them without being paid.

Another point though, with a lot of art copyrights if you just change a couple of colors or the design a little bit the once copywritten merchandise becomes uncopywritten. Such as the font of the word.

Finally, there is no C in a circle (copyright sign) next to the word Metacortechs or Metacortex, meaning that it isn't copywritten to use that word.

Sorry for arguing Anthrax, but I just wanted to make the point that as long as we aren't selling the shirts for our profit ( ie. the money being given to us and not WB's) it is perfectly legal.

**Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:38 pm

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bakntime

**Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:45 pm