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Araenna
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 		[Trailhead] Johnny Ontehspot
A random email
I got an email today, from Johnny Ontehspot. Did anyone else? I will reproduce the emails here.
Quote:

Johnny Ontehspot
6:15 PM (2 hours ago)
Subject:Is peace found, made, taken, or given?

Or more to the point "How does one acquire piece?" It is a question I have long struggled with.

Angela Ludia 6:22 PM (2 hours ago)
I always thought peace was made myself. How it is acquired.. Perseverance, perhaps?

Johnny Ontehspot 6:42 PM (2 hours ago)
How would you make peace yourself? What series of actions, what chemicals ingested, would catalyze your body to produce peace?
You could be right of course. I have been told to "make peace with myself". In a sort of circular manner this could be instruction to
create it on my own. But where to begin?

Angela Ludia 6:44 PM (2 hours ago)
I don't know. It depends. Peace can mean more than one thing. It can mean a world without war. It can mean having a life free of stress. It can be within a family, or worldwide. Where to begin depends on where you end, I suppose.

Johnny Ontehspot 6:56 PM (1 hour ago)
For the sake of expediency let us say that the piece sought is personal. To begin with the smallest unit makes sense in a way. I must
confess confusion at the statement "Where to begin depends on where you end". One will begin something when it needs to begin
and end points, endlings, and endings are not assured nor stated fact in every beginning.

Angela Ludia 7:01 PM (1 hour ago)
I meant more, it depends on what you're trying to accomplish, where you begin. To begin personally. That makes sense. I would begin by looking at what seems to be preventing you from getting peace.

Johnny Ontehspot 7:25 PM (1 hour ago)
What the attached file shows disrupts my peace.Not it as it is, but rather what it was.Is it possible for was to effect is? For past to maintain
influence on the present beyond it being a building point? Wisdom tells me it must, and also that it must not. "Those who don't learn from
history..." is met by "forget the past. It's done". The fact that its status as past is as vexing as what it represents shows its inherent danger.

attached file
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Angela Ludia 7:28 PM (1 hour ago)
I think that people say to forget the past because of the effect it can have on the here and now.

Johnny Ontehspot 7:33 PM (1 hour ago)
But what if you must learn from something? What if the first and the second represent options and
the decision between them is key? Which cost is higher, to forget or to remember,and to whom?


Angela Ludia 7:41 PM (1 hour ago)
If you must learn from it.. The cost to remember may be the highest to the one remembering, but the cost for them not to may be highest for someone else. At that point, I suppose it depends. Who is more important, you, or someone else. Who can afford to pay the price? And is it fair to make another pay a price for a choice that wasn't theirs?

Johnny Ontehspot
8:32 PM (22 minutes ago)

Is there no other option? And where to start the calculations on who it will effect?
I hesitate to forget because I have always thought God to be information. I do
not want to remember because the Devil is in the details.


I didn't get a chance to see and respond to this last one, before I got:



Quote:

Subject: The Answer

You have given me the answer. If I must learn from the details then it means the knowledge must be shared. If the knowledge is shared then I do not have to know personally the details.

I'll teach you. But remember that the Devil is in details..

NINMOOMNTYOBHCSTLETA
AOPCEWEBILEATLFTHOLLE
NOWGLOIICAON2T38000-0
7815169NTHKYOAGUAELAN


I am terrible at the ciphers and codes and the like, so I really need some help here.[/quote]
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 		All I know is it isn't ROT and it doesn't look like anything else I know of. But then again I've been gone awhile.

Why are there two periods at the end of the last message? Was that a copy bug or was it there originally?
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 		Feeling slightly retarded on this one =/ nothing is making sense to me.

* Johnny says peace early before changing it to piece the rest of the message
* He mentions God is information and the Devil is in the details

the picture doesn't help much... anyone know what kinda tree that is? or is it a 'famous' house?
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 		What is his email address? Maybe we can engage in different conversations with him...

EDIT:
clownhater7 wrote:
Feeling slightly retarded on this one =/ nothing is making sense to me.

* Johnny says peace early before changing it to piece the rest of the message
* He mentions God is information and the Devil is in the details

the picture doesn't help much... anyone know what kinda tree that is? or is it a 'famous' house?


I guess that's an oak draped with spanish moss, but still don't see a connection yet.

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 		I couldn't make anything out of the picture either. I thought I put the email in there, sorry. ontehspotjohnnySPLATyahoo.com

As far as periods, you mean "I'll teach you. But remember that the Devil is in details.. "? Because that seems to be copied correctly.
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 		One more question: what is the original file name for the picture before you hosted it online?

About the context, I guess the sentence "the Devil is in the details" is some sort of key to decipher the numbers. Or maybe the letters G and D (the only ones in uppercase on "God" and "Devil"). Also, the sentence is repeated one more time, as if the last email is the trailhead itself.

Maybe Johnny started the conversation willing to get to a certain point where he could use this sentence and, reaching that point and fearing a change of subjects, he replys the email before Araenna, emphasizes the sentence and post the codes to get the game going.

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 		I believe the name was simply Untitled.png. I was thinking "the Devil is in the details" has to be a key or something as well, but I'm not good at recognizing ciphers and the like yet.
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 		Are you still working on this bit?
Code:
NINMOOMNTYOBHCSTLETA
AOPCEWEBILEATLFTHOLLE
NOWGLOIICAON2T38000-0
7815169NTHKYOAGUAELAN

I think it is a "simple" anagram, as in a scramble, because the last stretch of letters look like "THANK YOU GAELAN" to me. However, when I tried to apply that reorder to the beginning, I didn't get anything readable. No one should be expected to solve a random scramble of any string that long, so I hope there is a better methodology.

later... doh! Putting it in a spreadsheet makes it *much* easier to swap columns -- indeed it is important to keep the rows and columns as given. (revised)
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N I O _ N M O N T H M Y O B S T A C L E T
O P E A C E W I L L B E A T T H E F O L L
O W I N G L O C A T I O N 2 8 0 0 3 0 0 -
8 1 9 7 5 1 6 T H A N K Y O U A N G E L A

I don't know what's wrong with the first line, but the rest makes sense now. The spacing on the top line is off by one, which messes it up. I tried inserting a blank in the front, which helped a little, but something is still off.

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 		By adding an "e" four characters into the first line, I came up with the following:

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INONeMONTHMYOBSTACLET
OPEACEWILLBEATTHEFOLL
OWINGLOCATION2800300-
8197516THANKYOUANGELA


or
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IN ONe MONTH MY OBSTACLE TO PEACE WILL BE AT THE FOLLOWING LOCATION 2800300-8197516 THANK YOU ANGELA


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 		Nice job, guys!
Trying to work on these numbers now.

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 		Emailed Johnny last night, got a response today.

Original email:

Quote:
Rolling Stones gather no...

...Spanish Moss?

If I asked for information, would you supply it? Or would you give me details?


Response:

Quote:
Re: Rolling Stones gather no...

If you're going to ask for a bit of God then you need some of Him to give in return. Think of transfer as sacrament and you are getting there.

I don't have any real knowledge of the Rolling Stones but I imagine your assessment to be correct.

See you soon. Things need doing.


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 		Thanks so much guys! I suck at this stuff, but love it anyway. Hm, so we have numbers that mean.. something. Coords of some sort?

Hm, 28.00300 - 81.97516 gives an intersection in florida. Like, in the middle of the intersection. So not sure that would be accurate.

28 00 300 - 81 97 516 is a swamp, also in florida.

Both seem unlikely to me.
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 		The image doesn't look stegged, and TinEye returns nothing for me. If today was any indication of Johnny's normal time frame, I don't expect anything back from him until around 2100 UTC tomorrow.

EDIT: Can anyone make out what that is under the eave of the house?

I've sharpened the image, but I cannot quite tell what is there.

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the red mosquito wrote:
EDIT: Can anyone make out what that is under the eave of the house?


You mean the words? I think it's (c) 2011 Google, since the image is from street view on Google Maps.

I have twisted, turned, spun, and mixed up these coordinates and nothing valuable has come up. I ever tried just wandering the nearby housing areas via Streetview from the intersection in hopes of finding something, but Dunno

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 		Derp. Yes, those are the exact words that I meant. It didn't even dawn on me that it was from street view when I realized that ©2011 was the first part.

With that in mind, though, live oaks or cypress trees with Spanish moss aren't out of place in the least in Florida. The co-ordinates do not seem too "off" to me.

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