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Bellebet · Veteran Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 87 Location: Boston, MA

[SPEC] Why the entity chose ilovebees

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:14 am

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Max Damage · Decorated Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 178

My theories? The bees are a red herring.

Note that The Operator seems quite unwillingly 'shipwrecked' here, and has made no reference to bees itself. In fact, it seems blind - unable to see anything but 'sand' (silicon? base data?), wounded, confused and scared.

I just get a feeling that we're focusing on the wrong metaphors. The metaphorical writings of The Operator itself (see the 'Widows Journey' story on Wikipedia, combined with page 2 of the 'analyzing the computer text' thread here) seem far more important.

Just my theory though.

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:19 am

Varin

I think (hopefully I'm right) that this won't be an entire ARG about bees. And it remains to be seen if this is directly related to Halo, but the hive mind or collective mind comparison may prove to be intentional.

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:46 am

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digdug · Kilroy Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 1

bees

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:09 am

Max Damage · Decorated Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 178

I'd also like to point out that there ARE references to instects in The Widows Journey story.

However, those insects are fireflies (a metaphor for network nodes?) and 'The Pious Flea', hiding from sight (have no idea what this is, but I think it may play a larger part later).

No bees though.

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:47 am

Paradoxic · Decorated Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 160

The connection with bees goes as far as allowing a neat way to bring ARG owners into the fold. That and give us a good group name (beekeepers). I agree with the speculation that there is no further connection here since none of the Game text mentions anything about bees.

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:06 pm

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The Web site www.Ilovebees.com Flashed up at the End of a HALO 2 Trailer that will be coming out soon. First you see an www.xbox.com site then at a blink of an eye www.ilovebees.com flashes up...... Could the Hackers be connected to Halo 2 in a way?

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:23 pm

Nobes · Boot Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 20

I came over here from the Halo.Bungie.Org site, and i must say, it's quite a forum you have.

The big thing going around over there is that these are A) the Cortana letters for Halo2. i have no idea waht this means, but it's supposed to be read into very deeply and give info about the game, bungie has been know for doing stuff like this...

B) While these are believed to be the "Cortana Letters" for Halo 2, they are not from her. The two main speculations are that they are from ether James, a spartan that survived the glassing of Reach (Read the books out, not actualy in the game) or they are from captain keyes, well, the flood form that absorbed Captain keys and has now survived.. Both of these theories bring up exciting possibilities for the game. That ether they're would be more spartains, or that the Flood would return. There is a line on one of the apges that says "This is the Law, and the whole law" or something like that. Now the spartans had a rule not to leave anyone behind(books again) so therefore, this would point to James, since he would know this. But it could also point to keys, because the one law the binds everything is "Survival of the fittest" meaning the flod, since almost nothing can stop them..

Just some thoughts

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:40 pm

Max Damage · Decorated Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 178

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:58 pm

Thumper · Veteran Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 85

From that link:

"So when's the shipping date? Matt replied:

"The End of the World."

From Aunt Margaret's CafePress shop:

"The end of the World is upon us! I wont be selling these items after Aug 24th due to the BEE's."

Is this a rehash of the end of the world reference? Is August 24th the shipping date for HALO 2?

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:09 pm

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**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:18 pm

aliendial

Oh for heaven's sake. NOT MARGARET'S SHOP. Jeez. You think Margaret made shirts with some halo thing on the back? Please.

Cafepress has been used in previous ARGs for fun and amusement to make souvenirs for players. Never pretended to be in-game. Colin (a UF member) has one now too, openly, and offers to put the proceeds into the community (ask Space about sudden spikes in bandwidth demands). Don't shop with mystery trolls.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:24 am

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I dont think the bees are red herrings, as throughout the website a whole range of insects are mentioned ie winged ant, bees, spiders, pious flea, fly.

I believe the author is defining the insects as a lower order of life, less intelligent, whereas the queen, widow, princess are all higher more intelligent forms of life, maybe AI.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:23 am

ninjamatic · Boot Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 20

edit: never mind, misread what was written.

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No.

As of right now, there is not enough evidence to call the bees important or not.

I'm trying not to assume too much with this, I think that assumptions close the mind to other possibilities.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:34 am

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