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krystyn
I Never Tire of My Own Voice
Joined: 26 Sep 2002 Posts: 3651 Location: Is not Chicago
[PUZZLE] Oh look a mysterious image Carrying over from mal-adusted emo baby:
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:05 pm
GWing_02
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Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 144 Location: Seattle, WA
*groan* Betamaze. I can't believe they got a hold of it again.
It must have been toyed with somehow; I don't recognize that bottom right tile as any letter. I'm thinking perhaps for each row they split the tile in thirds down the row horizontally and reversed the whole row of a slice or something fancy like that?
The pixels on the slant don't 100% match up. Aren't they supposed to? I smell flippage...
edit: OH! I found the mysterious last tile... it's an endstop, apparently.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:18 pm
spriggan
Boot
Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 25 Location: Cambridge, MA
looking at the first five tiles, i've gotten these decodes
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take the first one and mirror it around x and y axes and you get f. second and third are w and s, not flipped. fourth is double flipped again, and is o. fifth is p, not flipped. this match up with what others are getting?
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:16 am
GWing_02
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Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 144 Location: Seattle, WA
Looks like what I've got so far. I've got the first row down now.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:08 am
spriggan
Boot
Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 25 Location: Cambridge, MA
GWing_02 wrote:
Looks like what I've got so far. I've got the first row down now.
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same pattern of flip noflip noflip flip noflip noflip...?
this one's all you, my head hurts.
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:12 am
GWing_02
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I'm not paying much attention to the patterns. Most are unflipped though.
I'm having difficulty with one particular pattern; I can't quite figure out what the first row, second to last tile is supposed to be.
edit: I went back and marked the ones that are flipped. My head hurts, and I swear I'll be able to just read betamaze by the time this is done.
edit2: With an anomaly here or there the pattern of flipped/not flipped is reversed each row.
edit3: Ignore that.
edit4: Found out what the trouble tile was. Apparently there's two versions of Betamaze, or one of the sites I'm using has an error with the "b." A corner got added where it should've been shaved off.
edit5: My fastest row yet. I'm getting good at this, which is not a good thing for my mental health. YAAARGH.
edit6: 1/3 of the way done. There's an AWFUL lot of f's, both of the flipped and unflipped variety. A little more flipped than unflipped, I think.
edit7: Almost there...
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:18 am
GWing_02
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Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 144 Location: Seattle, WA
WOW.
I finished it. No one say betamaze, please.
Here it is.
KEY!!!!
RED = Not flipped
GREEN = Flipped
IMPORTANT : The & is not really an &, it's my own substitution to what the site calls a "full stop." The hyphen - is really a hyphen, as is the semicolon ;.
My guess is that the flipped ones need to be ROT'd or otherwise manipulated one way while the unflipped ones need to go another (perhaps the opposite) way.
PS I might've messed up here or there. Darn chipped corners.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 2:16 am
spriggan
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Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 25 Location: Cambridge, MA
GWing_02 wrote:
My guess is that the flipped ones need to be ROT'd or otherwise manipulated one way while the unflipped ones need to go another (perhaps the opposite) way.
nice!
unfortunately, a quick attempt at ROTing the red string, the green string, and the interlaced string doesn't yield anything englishy.
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 2:41 am
GWing_02
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Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 144 Location: Seattle, WA
Bleh, I guess I'll leave the rest to the experts.
An interesting note:
There's several strings of "horey" in the last three rows above the last one. I thought I'd messed up when I saw that as a was doing it, but there might be something there to analyze. There's another one 9 rows up from the bottom on the very right, and another that starts 7 rows from the bottom on the very right and finishes on the beginning of the next row, so we know that it should probably be read row by row, not any funny pattern.
There's a coupla "forey"s too.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:31 am
spriggan
Boot
Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 25 Location: Cambridge, MA
GWing_02 wrote:
There's several strings of "horey" in the last three rows above the last one.
i saw that. fwchorey, even.
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kevin
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:44 am
Muffin
Unfettered
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 306 Location: UK, Leicester
Don't know if this is really necessary but...
GWing_02 says...
Quote:
The & is not really an &, it's my own substitution to what the site calls a "full stop."
Full Stop (UK) = Period (US) = .
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:26 am
Ehsan
Entrenched
Joined: 09 May 2003 Posts: 992
Well since no key length would make sense because of the repetition of fwchorey, I gathered it's a simple substitution cipher. After 2 hours of staring at letter frequencies and comparing digrams & trigrams.. (I'll spare you the details)
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The symbols turn turn and must go on turning-for ever. It is death if they stand still. A thousand millions scrabbled the crust of the earth. The wheels began to turn. In a hundred and fifty years there were two thousand millions. Stop all the wheels. In one thousand and fifty days there are once more only a thousand millions; a thousand thousand thousand men and women have starved to death.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:55 am
Caterpillar
Unfictologist
Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 1887 Location: cem's otherbody
Sort of taken from Aldous Huxley's A Brave New World Ch. 3 (but machine has been replaced with symbol)
The machine turns, turns and must keep on turning–for ever. It is death if it stands still. A thousand millions scrabbled the crust of the earth. The wheels began to turn. In a hundred and fifty years there were two thousand millions. Stop all the wheels. In a hundred and fifty weeks there are once more only a thousand millions; a thousand thousand thousand men and women have starved to death.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:02 am
Ehsan
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Joined: 09 May 2003 Posts: 992
This was from the metacortechs wallpaper..
Also note that 150 weeks has been changed to 1050 days.. (which are equal)
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:04 am
GWing_02
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Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 144 Location: Seattle, WA
Which one was on the wallpaper, I can't remember? Was it the modified or original passage?
Here's comparing the differences between the two passage:
Code:
symbols turn turn go they stand one thousand days
machine turns turns keep it stands a hundred weeks
+ | y b o l g o y o t o u n y
--+--------------------------------------------------
- | c i k e p i u n r e w e e k
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:57 pm
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