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Katsurame
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PM's as Players Not to stir up trouble, but is it acceptable for a PM to also be a player? Not in their own games, of course, but in other games. Would you say it gives PM's the advantage, and the games goes by too quickly for players, or would you say that there is too much suspicion of the PM playing his own game?
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:53 pm
Nightmare Tony
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I dont see why not. There is no advantage to a pm being a player, EVEN if they know the identities of who is behind the curtain.
Besides, it would SUCK to not be able to play...
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:06 pm
catherwood
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You might want to clarify the question IN the poll question itself. Yes, PMs of one game can be players of another unrelated game.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:22 pm
maxim
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I think they can be players in their own games as well (if they have the time). It wouldn't be right to be a front runner or anything, but to get an idea for how it looks on the other side of the curtain, or possibly to subtly steer people in the right direction.
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:34 pm
Katsurame
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Yeah, that would be nice, but unfortunately, many websites don't allow that, and many PM's consider it bad form. Personally, I don't care. It's your game, do what you will.
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:48 pm
GuyP
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Uh... I don't really see how you can be a player in your own game, unless you have a relatively minor role BTS where you aren't really privy to any information about the plot or puzzles. As for steering people in the right direction, you'd be sort of asking to be staked to the water's edge at low tide. And I'll bring the stakes!
But yeah, of course you can be a PM and play other people's games, I don't think it gives you any sort of edge over other players.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:48 pm
Phaedra
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GuyP wrote:
Uh... I don't really see how you can be a player in your own game, unless you have a relatively minor role BTS where you aren't really privy to any information about the plot or puzzles. As for steering people in the right direction, you'd be sort of asking to be staked to the water's edge at low tide. And I'll bring the stakes!
Amen. For a PM to pose as a player and attempt to "guide" the other players is the worst sort of shallow and cheap manipulation...
Grr.
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But yeah, of course you can be a PM and play other people's games, I don't think it gives you any sort of edge over other players.
Yeah, I don't see why it would. I know several PMs who claim that while they may be good at making puzzles, they're not so great at solving them. And while being a good writer may help you to better appreciate good writing, I don't see how it would necessarily give you any sort of advantage in playing the game.
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:46 pm
Dorkmaster
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Oh you mean "players"! I thought you meant "playas".... sorry. My bad.
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:47 pm
GuyP
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Wait a second, I thought PM's were playaz by default? You mean that behind this curtain of which you speak, there are no leggy blondes, baths full of champagne and mountains of cocaine? I'm telling you, ARGs won't be considered an equal of film or television until there's enough depravity and wanton behaviour in the industry. It's for the good of the genre, people!
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:01 pm
Omnie
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GuyP wrote:
You mean that behind this curtain of which you speak, there are no...mountains of cocaine?
Well...
"so there's this little girl, right? And there's this skeleton thing behind her. Dude, it's looking into her soul . She's holdin' up her ponytails all, "look at me, cruel world! I mock you with my ponytails of defiance!" And, get this, she's looking at stol . And her vision is totally all red , like she's lookin' through blood or something. But her eyes, man, her eyes. They see . In red."
"Whoa, man. What does it all mean ?"
"Nothing, dude. Nothing ."
"...whoa."
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:48 pm
Fi
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or possibly to subtly steer people in the right direction
This is generally considered to be a very bad practice indeed.
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:59 pm
yanka
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Omnie wrote:
GuyP wrote:
You mean that behind this curtain of which you speak, there are no...mountains of cocaine?
Well...
"so there's this little girl, right? And there's this skeleton thing behind her. Dude, it's looking into her soul . She's holdin' up her ponytails all, "look at me, cruel world! I mock you with my ponytails of defiance!" And, get this, she's looking at stol . And her vision is totally all red , like she's lookin' through blood or something. But her eyes, man, her eyes. They see . In red."
"Whoa, man. What does it all mean ?"
"Nothing, dude. Nothing ."
"...whoa."
Stinky ponytail preserver! Omg, krystyn was high on coke when she made it and we NEVER KNEW
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:05 pm
Nightmare Tony
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Fi: I've played a couple of games where on stuck puzzles, SUDDENLY, a new gues logs in with the right answewr or a clue
Or you can always go with the white dot and the pie.
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:44 pm
GuyP
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Tony: I've seen it happen where people are stuck on a puzzle, and someone posts to the forum merely repeating the information that's already been discovered!
Just because it's happened, doesn't mean it isn't incredibly lame.
(and, err... the white dot and the what now???)
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:59 pm
Ciaran_H
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GuyP wrote:
(and, err... the white dot and the what now???)
He's referring to a puzzle in Lockjaw which had people stuck on it for a long time, and the PMs gave clues that people already knew.
See http://www.unfiction.com/compendium/2002/11/15/wheregif/ for more info.
(disclaimer: I didn't play Lockjaw )
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:28 am
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