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Casiski · Boot Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 19

Yes. Often, these substitution ciphers were originally done on paper. Here are two good links: [URL=http://www.cryptogram.org/cdb/aca.info/aca.and.you/chap08.html]http://www.cryptogram.org/cdb/aca.info/aca.and.you/chap08.html[/URL] and the Challenger's Handbook at [URL=http://www.caesum.com/]http://www.caesum.com/[/URL].

I actually solved the previous Vigenere cipher by hand.

**Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:04 pm

Casiski · Boot Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 19

I don't think it's a seriated playfair cipher because in many ways of stacking the letters, you get pairs of double letters, and that doesn't happen with this kind of cipher. The cipher could still be the regular playfair form, though.

**Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:38 pm

romper2005 · Boot Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 20

Nice Java program, shame I don't have a answer yet.

But I am fairly sure that the number is important, on the site it says the info? attachment is 'more from jerry, last month' this would put the date at 03/05.

**Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:43 pm

Russell

OK guys we need to hurry:

**Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:12 pm

Casiski · Boot Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 19

If 041005 is a date, then the message could be announcing some event or meeting on that date.

**Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:26 pm

Casiski · Boot Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 19

Notice that in "2 3 5 6 7 4 1 8", there are 8 non-repeating numbers, and there are 8 groups in that cipher. Probably a coincidence.

**Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:30 pm

Russell

There are no such thing as coincidences! Wink

Also there are 32 letters, 4 * 8.

Ok I have tried a Complete Columnar Transposition and an incomplete one but not having much luck. Bang Head

**Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:33 pm

Svengoolie · Decorated Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 289 Location: Chicago

I take it we've all given up.

**Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:56 pm

Russell

Im still trying to work on it but just keep coming up empty.

**Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:38 pm

baseball3190 · Veteran Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 90

i talked with jerry.....

**Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:47 pm

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"hey doug we are going to play a game......little red riding hood or i will kill you, have a nice day"

^^first arg contact directly to me. almost wet myself. lol

Russell

Am still working on that number with the letters anyone got any ideas? And what did you talk to him on? I cant seem to find his aim profile.

**Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:49 pm

Svengoolie · Decorated Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 289 Location: Chicago

The sites been updated!

**Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:05 pm

romper2005 · Boot Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 20

Not given up yet, but I keep turning up blanks whatever I try

**Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:58 pm

NovacaineX

Are there any sort of ciphers that use numeric keys? I've tried every cipher i can think of, but without the proper keys they are all useless. The number he gave us is obviously the key to solve the puzzle. I just don't know how to use it.

**Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:02 pm

Svengoolie · Decorated Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 289 Location: Chicago

Are there any other ARG forums out there where people might have solved it already?

**Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:11 pm