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**Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:10 pm

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Given that God is infinite, and that the universe is also infinite... would you like a toasted tea cake?
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Meak · Decorated Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 230

**Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:21 pm

Bidvision · Veteran Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Posts: 127

I looked up that Dune quote since I haven't seen it..

**Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:10 pm

Faithers · Boot Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 12 Location: Nebraska/USA

I know .flv is a flash movie..but I cannot get that to play with anything I've got :\

**Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:04 pm

Meak · Decorated Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 230

**Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:22 pm

xar · Guest

The beginning is very delacate time

**Posted:** Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:58 am

xar · Guest

numbers

**Posted:** Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:02 am

Meak · Decorated Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 230

hang on a sec...

'delicate time'
'turn the hourglass'
'way back machine'
'begins where it ends'

we need to know in what order the adverts appeared in those magazines. each advert has one of the symbols in it.
maybe the page they were on could be the clues?
does anyone have copies, or remember the ads?

**Posted:** Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:54 am

setters393

well, I've been away and I've come back and all I could read was 'blah,blah,blah' - I don't have a clue about any of the php/flash stuff!!

but I remember there being a page within the stella site about the adverts and I think that had dates on?!

**Posted:** Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:58 am

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Porkchop

Not having played this game from the very, very start I'm unsure as to which magazines and adverts your referring to Meak.

However if we have to go back to the beginning then I think this whole game stemmed from an ad campaign created by Lowe London and run by Stella where people are depicted selling thier souls to the devil for a beer.

http://ad-rag.com/110836.php
http://www.olaf-veltman.com

Both url's show photos from this campaign. The butterfly collection on the wall, the hourglass and the office desk all appear on the H* website down the right hand side. Also the crossroads and the Airfield are depicted on H* as well. You can also see each of the symbols in the photos, not sure where the dog is though.

http://magazinedesign.weblogsinc.com/entry/9884670691380881/

Also shows which magazines these adverts where going to be featured in:
Clash, Another Magazine, Pop, GQ, Esquire & Arena.

Not sure if these are the ads you mean.

**Posted:** Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:01 pm

Wishi-san

Just in case, I doubt it's useful, but felt I may as well do it Smile

This is the promo video broken down into Frame Number, Time, Description. Links to all the background images. They're double size images and I've fixed up the brightness/contrast a bit.

172 7.1s Text: The worth of a thing is what it will bring.
273 11.3s BG: Mysterious freaky guy facing at an angle towards us
301 12.5s Text: Life fatigue?
421 17.5s Box Text: 2002-2003 - Golden futures
442 18.4s BG: Older woman hands on wall facing us
444 18.5s Text: Achievement deficient
527 21.9s Text: Desire heavy?
596 24.8s Box Text: 2003-2004 - Reassuringly expensive
634 26.4s BG: Man looking desiringly to the right, hand on head
661 27.5s Text: Intolerance to recognition
720 30.0s Box Text: 45000 new acquisitions by year end
732 30.5s Text: Intolerance to success
852 35.5s Text: Don't be disheartened
886 36.9s BG: Man leaning head on arm on wall
926 38.5s Text: Escape your satisfaction vaccuum
1021 42.5s BG: Man sitting head in arms leaning back on wall
1047 43.6a Text: Satisy your heart's desire
1251 52.1s BG: Man Facing Forward (R eye clear)
1271 52.9s BG: Woman Facing At Angle Towards Camera (L eye clear) (Pink overlay?)
1336 55.6s BG: Dinner Table? Metal trays?
1374 57.2s Text: Men. Women. Textiles. Currency. Banquets. Beverages. Holidays. Vehicles. Flight. Supernatural abilities.
1389 57.8s BG: Oodles of cash (Queen's face visible)
1446 60.2s BG: ???? Glider in sky? Hat?
1499 62.4s BG: Fingerprint? Face?
1577 64.8s BG: Doors? Columns? White house?
1611 67.1s BG: ??? Light? Train?
1666 69.4s BG: Plane - Trident Air
1741 72.5s BG: Pink, no idea..
1747 72.8s Text: Release the equity from your life
1789 74.5s BG: Woman staring forward (full face clear)
1936 80.6s BG: Man and woman hugging and happy (pink overlay..)
2018 84.0s Text: Commercial salvation
2193 91.3s BG: Man looking facing us looking downwards (pinkness!)
2446 101.9s BG: Man's eyes fully open looking towards us
2482 103.4s Text: Harness your potential
2625 109.3s END

**Posted:** Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:38 pm

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Given that God is infinite, and that the universe is also infinite... would you like a toasted tea cake?
Wishi-san x Wishi-san x Wishi-san

GuyP

Another failed attempt!

**Posted:** Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:00 pm

flo · Veteran Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 121 Location: UK

Re: Another failed attempt!

**Posted:** Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:53 am

Daedalus-XIII

Hi,

stopped following S+S actively long time ago, when it became apparent, that it was limited to UK, just lurking since then.

Has anyone tried to connect the symbols to the Portfolio over at Marlowes Website and derive the order from the creation-dates mentioned there, instead of the HWAU-Site's order? Just some idea, since the HWAU-order seems to lead nowhere up to now.

**Posted:** Sun Jun 19, 2005 5:18 am

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Rutten_ko · Boot Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 13

Some information over places and persons:
Ophis - that mean snake in latin, Jon has written something about a snake in the grass in his coche. I think the snake symbolise the snake in paradise that gave the aple to Adam and Eva

Adam and eva = People
forbidden aple = Luxury
The snake = Satan = Sable and shuck and the Man in black

Asgard is the place in northic mythology where you come when you die in battle

Valhalla is the great hall in Asgard where all the Gods eats and drinks

I hope this will give u some clues!

**Posted:** Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:18 am