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[SPEC] Whipsmart Music
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Violet
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misteraitch wrote:
All weekend I've been whistling the milk maids yodel, which eventually struck me as being made up of two parts - one containing 5 notes, and the second containing six
[#####] ###### another mobile number leading us to another site perhaps?


The milkmaids sing
F sharp, G sharp, C, E flat, G sharp,
F sharp, F, G sharp, C, F, G sharp

f sharp would have to be 0 and g sharp would have to be 7 (I think, do you get any other numbers?) so I think you'll be lucky to get a number out of it, but of course you're welcome to try!!!

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hello guys
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you guys are all my luvvly friends

Edit: Gets the gist across - Wishi-san
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... ^ mod?

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nynxer is propably correct- everyone on here probably has cracked one out every now and again- it's much more rewarding than posting insults and oversized avatars on random forums after all.

Violet wrote:
f shar-p would have to be 0 and g sharp would have to be 7 (I think, do you get any other numbers?)


the second number can be 7, 8, 9, 2, 1- there are probably others too- in the UK all mobile numbers start 07, but i think the number with violet's message was an "08" number.
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Violet
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true, but how do you get from f sharp to g sharp in 2 moves without picking random numbers for the other notes to be? bearing in mind you've got 12 notes to play with in an octave. Feel free to beat me to death if it turns out to be a mobile number

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Here's a thought - what if the milkmaid's whistles are tonal adaptations of DTMF tones (the sounds that telephone keypads make, and which tell the 'phone system who you want to call)?
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Tried it but there are only four tones to choose from [albeit of variations in frequency]

687Hz/770Hz/852Hz/941Hz/1209Hz/1336Hz/1477Hz

[url]http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html[/url] explains about frequencies in more depth...

However, it could be to do with the Wavelength tho....

..here we go again Rolling Eyes
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Wavelength Data [CM]
F#: 1490 – 746 – 373 – 186 - 93.2 - 46.6 - 23.3 - 11.7
G#: 1320 – 665 – 332 – 166 - 83.1 - 41.5 - 20.8 - 10.4
C: 2100 – 1050 – 527 – 264 – 132 - 65.9 - 33.0 - 16.5 - 8.2
Eb: 1770 – 887 – 444 – 222 – 111 - 55.4 - 27.7 - 13.9
G#: 1320 – 665 – 332 – 166 - 83.1 - 41.5 - 20.8 - 10.4

F#: 1490 – 746 – 373 – 186 - 93.2 - 46.6 - 23.3 - 11.7
F: 1580 – 790 – 395 – 198 - 98.8 - 49.4 - 24.7 - 12.3
G#: 1320 – 665 – 332 – 166 - 83.1 - 41.5 - 20.8 - 10.4
C: 2100 – 1050 – 527 – 264 – 132 - 65.9 - 33.0 - 16.5 - 8.2
F: 1580 – 790 – 395 – 198 - 98.8 - 49.4 - 24.7 - 12.3
G#: 1320 – 665 – 332 – 166 - 83.1 - 41.5 - 20.8 - 10.4

Frequency Data [Hz]
F#: 23.12 - 46.25 - 92.50 - 185.00 - 369.99 - 739.99 - 1479.98 - 2959.96
G#: 25.96 - 51.91 - 103.83 - 207.65 - 415.30 - 830.61 - 1661.22 - 3322.44
C: 16.35 - 32.70 - 65.41 - 130.81 - 261.63 - 523.25 - 1046.50 - 2093.00 - 4186.01
Eb: 19.45 - 38.89 - 77.78 - 155.56 - 311.13 - 622.25 - 1244.51 - 2489.02 - 4978.03
G#: 25.96 - 51.91 - 103.83 - 207.65 - 415.30 - 830.61 - 1661.22 - 3322.44

F#: 23.12 - 46.25 - 92.50 - 185.00 - 369.99 - 739.99 - 1479.98 - 2959.96
F: 21.83 - 43.65 - 87.31 - 174.61 - 349.23 - 698.46 - 1396.91 - 2793.83
G#: 25.96 - 51.91 - 103.83 - 207.65 - 415.30 - 830.61 - 1661.22 - 3322.44
C: 16.35 - 32.70 - 65.41 - 130.81 - 261.63 - 523.25 - 1046.50 - 2093.00 - 4186.01
Eb: 19.45 - 38.89 - 77.78 - 155.56 - 311.13 - 622.25 - 1244.51 - 2489.02 - 4978.03
G#: 25.96 - 51.91 - 103.83 - 207.65 - 415.30 - 830.61 - 1661.22 - 3322.44

The values all range from note-0 through to note-7/8

Any number-monkeys spot anything?
[I'm a picture monkey so numbers aint my banana Crying or Very sad ]
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Doh! The Eb from the last stanza of the Frequency table should be an F and not Eb

Sorry folks!
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I don't know where to go with this, but I put together a Grateful Dead spec: The WhipSmart Card has a Nine of Diamonds.
    * Jerry Garcia is well known to have had an affinity with the Ten of Diamonds.
    * He lost part of a finger on his Picking hand as a child, leaving him with more than Nine but less than Ten
    * He recorded music under Ice Nine Publishing
    * The Dead got their name from Garcia pulling it out of a dictionary. Ther is a wordSpy card showing a dictionary. The phrase occurs in the Egyption Book of the Dead, another card in the Group 333 is the Master of Secrets, concerning Egypt. It doesn't hurt that The Grateful Dead are one of the very few western musical acts to have actually played at the pyramids of Giza.
    * One of the cities releasing PC cards is on Shattuck Ave, Berkeley, California. Some twenty miles from Haight-Ashbury.

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I congratulate you, Potus, on some brilliant Qabbalistic - type correspondences there. Somehow, I doubt any of them have anything to do with anything. Which is a pity, really, because if the Whipsmart puzzles were really extensively linked to The Grateful Dead, then I, for one, would be quite amused. But it's a bit like saying that the answer to 'Geek Antiques' involves coming up with a punch card code that could be theoretically fed into an Analytical Engine, or that the answers to some of the cards are map co - ordinates. Ace if it were true, then this really would have some claim to being one of the toughest and most involved ARG's going. But, on the other hand, in the wake of the 'Archer' puzzle, I think we may be left to hypothesise a certain lack of imagination in the puzzle setting, rather than something as way out as this. Hope I'm wrong, of course. But 9 times out of 10, it seems to me that some of our ideas are more interesting than whatever a puzzle actually yields.

But I guess having established one 'Blondie' connection, we couldn't rule out the musical connection entirely!!

And, you know, while we're on it - *Jerry* Garcia - Ben n' Jerry's Ice - cream - Whipsmart Smile

Genius!!
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Quote:
But 9 times out of 10
LOL - right Smile
Of course! Ben & Jerry's! I totally forgot!
What about 'mind candy'? A hint to Jerry Garcia's consumption of illicit drugs?

MAYBE WHEN THEY RELEASE THE CARDS - we'll have a clearer mindset.
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Macavity wrote:
Here's a thought - what if the milkmaid's whistles are tonal adaptations of DTMF tones (the sounds that telephone keypads make, and which tell the 'phone system who you want to call)?


found this after a painstaking search
http://www.sharewareriver.com/product.php?id=8613
and downloaded the trial to get a touch tone keypad
trouble is i'm tone deaf and can't make anything out of it so i gave
up after about an hour none the wiser
another thing i'm pondering is that there are 3 maids that yodel
But then again there would be wouldn't there Exclamation Exclamation

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Had a look at the B+J's website
http://www.benjerry.com/our_products/top_ten/
deffo some similarities i reckon we should hold em to
ransom for copyright infringements make em tell us the
answers for the whipsmart puzzles

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