Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
FAQ FAQ   Search Search 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
Website Restoration Project
This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.
Announcements
This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.
This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.
  

The time now is Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:04 pm
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)		 View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: MetaCortechs » MetaCortechs: Puzzles
[PUZZLE?] Wongmo and cascadevortex line wrapping oddity
View previous topicView next topic
Page 1 of 2 [23 Posts]   Goto page: 1, 2 Next
Author Message
yeahyeah
Decorated


Joined: 14 Oct 2003
Posts: 282

 		[PUZZLE?] Wongmo and cascadevortex line wrapping oddity
I don't know if this is a puzzle, or an issue with however they created the pages on cascadevortex.

But here goes..

In http://wongmo.org/index.html

Quote:

Close your eyes and visualize dolphins splashing
in the gently rippling waves.
A warm breeze
blows the palms around you, bending
their
fronds gently. Your toes digging
deeply into
the hot, moist sand, you drink
it all in
like a pina colada in the desert.

There, isn't that relaxing? Don't
you feel
the tension slipping away from
you like sand
crabs at low tide?

I am Wongmo, your host and mentor
on a journey
of self-discovery. Through the
courses and
seminars I offer, you will find
yourself
immersed in the healing power
of self enrichment
and find yourself transported
to an island
of tranquility and self knowledge.
Many of
my ongoing courses are available
via internet
subscription or by postal mail
and my weekend
seminars, held several times
a year on the
Big Island, are the perfect way
to incorporate
my coconuts of knowledge into
the tree of
your day-to-day life.

At first I thought it was just a standard word wrap, then when I tested this theory I noticed (when you combine line 2 and 3)
Close your eyes and visualize dolphins splashing
in the gently rippling waves. A warm breeze

It shouldnt of wrapped..
Then I thought, well maybe it was wrapped because of the first sentence
ending, but that doesnt explain why this is like this:

A warm breeze
blows the palms around you, bending
their

Close your eyes and visualize dolphins splashing
(and for reference on width)

That formatting suggests to me that maybe there is something deeper in the messages.. Any ideas or comments?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:54 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Azathoth666
Unfettered

Joined: 09 Oct 2003
Posts: 321
Location: OZ-tralia

 		It could just be Wongmo trying to be poetical...
_________________
We don't stop playing because we grow old.
We grow old because we stop playing.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:01 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
yeahyeah
Decorated


Joined: 14 Oct 2003
Posts: 282

 		this behavior is also seen on cascadevortex on the index, and the history page.. I'm still leaning towards that its accidental, but at this point, I perfer to leave no rock unturned.. :)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:51 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
eudaemon
Boot

Joined: 03 Oct 2003
Posts: 23

 		It's just your screen size or desktop formatting. The text word wraps nicely on my browser for both websites.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:41 am
 View user's profile AIM Address
 ICQ Number 
 Back to top 
yeahyeah
Decorated


Joined: 14 Oct 2003
Posts: 282

 		view the source, sure it looks fine on the screen.. :)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:15 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Marl64
Unfettered


Joined: 04 Oct 2003
Posts: 456
Location: Prisoner of Zion
yeahyeah wrote:
view the source, sure it looks fine on the screen.. Smile


Hmm, the source is a bit odd.
Code:

<FONT color="#ffff99">Close your eyes and visualize dolphins splashing
            in the gently rippling waves.
            A warm breeze
            blows the palms around you, bending
            their
            fronds gently. Your toes digging
            deeply into
            the hot, moist sand, you drink
            it all in
            like a pina colada in the desert.</FONT><BR>
            <FONT color="#ffff99"><BR>
            There, isn't that relaxing? Don't
            you feel
            the tension slipping away from
            you like sand
            crabs at low tide?</FONT><BR>
            <FONT color="#ffff99"><BR>
            I am Wongmo, your host and mentor
            on a journey
            of self-discovery. Through the
            courses and
            seminars I offer, you will find
            yourself
            immersed in the healing power
            of self enrichment
            and find yourself transported
            to an island
            of tranquility and self knowledge.
            Many of
            my ongoing courses are available
            via internet
            subscription or by postal mail
            and my weekend
            seminars, held several times
            a year on the
            Big Island, are the perfect way
            to incorporate
            my coconuts of knowledge into
            the tree of
            your day-to-day life.</FONT></I><BR>


If you take the first line and every sixth line after that you get

Close your eyes and visualize dolphins splashing
deeply into
you feel
on a journey
of self enrichment
via internet
to incorporate

If you Start with "on a journey" and do every fourth line;

on a journey
yourself
to an island
via internet
a year on the
the tree of

But a different pattern might make even more sense.
_________________
Marl
(There is no spoon, oh wait, there it is)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:34 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Azathoth666
Unfettered

Joined: 09 Oct 2003
Posts: 321
Location: OZ-tralia

 		Well, I printed that out and spent half an hour or so throwing darts at it last night, but all I got wash gibberish... Wink

I'm not 100%, but you could be onto something there Marl... like that last one you had was very Wongmo, but very Matrix.

Mind you, like the Tarot, we could be reading too much into it...
_________________
We don't stop playing because we grow old.
We grow old because we stop playing.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:08 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Marl64
Unfettered


Joined: 04 Oct 2003
Posts: 456
Location: Prisoner of Zion
Azathoth666 wrote:
... like that last one you had was very Wongmo, but very Matrix.

Mind you, like the Tarot, we could be reading too much into it...


Hey, I just throw ideas around and hope some will stick Very Happy
_________________
Marl
(There is no spoon, oh wait, there it is)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:36 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Azathoth666
Unfettered

Joined: 09 Oct 2003
Posts: 321
Location: OZ-tralia

 		The big thing that drew my attention there was the island thing: on a journey to an island... Mykonos is an island... whats on Mykonos? The Aquapolis!

God, my brain is starting to hurt...
_________________
We don't stop playing because we grow old.
We grow old because we stop playing.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:47 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Marl64
Unfettered


Joined: 04 Oct 2003
Posts: 456
Location: Prisoner of Zion

 		It just occurred to me that trhis thread is about two sites and so far I've only looked at one of them, so for completeness...

http://www.cascadevortex.com/index.html

The source starts off pretty normal (apart from the double spacing);
Code:
<P class="norm"><FONT size="+1"><BR>

      <BR>

      Welcome to the Cascade Vortex. Your presence

      here is already affected. The very air you

      breathe, the forces holding you to the earth;

      they are changed. Gravity is weakened, and

      somehow, your world is changed. Will you

      meet the challenge and mystery of this place?

      Stay for a while, try to understand the beauty

      and knowledge of this exciting deviation

      from the norm. Can you feel your senses being

      altered, your ears pricking up at the sensation

      that something is not quite as balanced as

      it was one minute ago? </FONT><BR>

      <BR>


But then it starts doing what we've seen on Wongmo;
Code:
<FONT size="+1">

      What most visitors to this very location

      notice during the drive up is that

      the feeling

      of cool and rain and vibrant trees

      gives

      way to a chill that seeps into the

      bones.

      The green of the trees seems leeched

      out,

      dampened and flattened. The Cascade

      Vortex

      is a twisting, teeming mystery. Visitors

      will feel the pull, the absolute enigma

      of

      this place as far away as two miles

      from

      the Vortex epicenter. </FONT><BR>

      <BR>

      <FONT size="+1">

      Do you like the rules of nature? Forget

      all

      of them as you work your way closer

      to the

      Vortex. Physics is an ersatz resident

      of

      the Cascade Vortex - guests of the

      site report

      feeling gravity change for them. There

      is

      a sense of buoyancy and instability,

      walking

      outwards from the main building, and

      then

      the feet and limbs grow heavier, downward

      pull restored. </FONT><BR>

      <BR>

      <FONT size="+1">

      Perhaps this place is a gateway to

      another

      dimension. It has been nature's way

      for eons

      to make a doorway into a new age, an

      evolution

      into a new species, a weakening of

      one link

      in the chain to forge new worlds. The

      Cascade

      Vortex might be just such a place.

      Theories

      abound as to whether the Vortex is

      waxing

      or waning in power. The Vortex is currently

      safe for all humans, a wonderful afternoon

      with family, to explore the curiosity

      of

      semi-weightlessness, the disorientation

      of

      electro-magnetic disturbances and neutralization

      of local weather.</FONT><br />


Sorry nothing new to add. Embarassed

(Wonder if they combine well)
_________________
Marl
(There is no spoon, oh wait, there it is)

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:28 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
yeahyeah
Decorated


Joined: 14 Oct 2003
Posts: 282

 		I've tried putting em together a couple different ways, but nothing really popped out as a hidden message.. :-/ maybe its just a random oddity like the zone alarm tag in liephe.net/partners.html (been there since at least the 9th, and survived the update on the 18th)

I hope it is a hidden message though ;) I will mess with it some more later..

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:26 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
The Pusher Robot
Kilroy

Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Posts: 2

 		Just for reference, here are the numbers of words in each line, separated by paragraph (no line has 10 or more words).

Wongmo:
7536152637
52534
73426153435252534462532

Cascade Vortex index:
788778969885
77271817151671813
8182617261616172
7162917281717187613143

Cascade Vortex history:
818181717177271
8161417616271622
7171817171626174

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:24 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address
 Back to top 
bakntime
Unfettered

Joined: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 462
Location: back in time

 		I kind of surprised that nobody has mentioned this, and usually when I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned something it turns out that they have in another thread, but here goes anyway...

The only other reason I can think of to have the text formatted that way is that there's some significance to the first letter of every line.

Here's the first letters of Wongmo poems...

ciabtfdtil

tytyc

ioocsyioatommvsasabtmty

Unscramble, anyone? Confused

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:17 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
joebrent
Unfettered


Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Posts: 640
Location: New York, sometimes

 		ThePusherRobot, you sound like you need protection.

This is some serious minutiae, you guys.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:35 am
 View user's profile Visit poster's website AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
The Pusher Robot
Kilroy

Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Posts: 2

 		I didn't actually go through and count; I wrote a short perl script to do it. And if it wasn't important, why would it be wrapped like that?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:08 am
 View user's profile AIM Address
 Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 1 of 2 [23 Posts]   Goto page: 1, 2 Next
View previous topicView next topic
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: MetaCortechs » MetaCortechs: Puzzles
Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group