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[oliverkeers13]

Hacking servers will never be part of an ARG. This is because people won't stop. If they get the impression that they can hack a server to retreive a certain file, some muppet will decide that they should get a headstart and hack the whole server, because they can.

[Mico]

Fair enough Ollie - I appreciate your point of view, and I understand what you mean. I agree with you - I do not condone hacking. I merely stated my opinion that if the port scan had shown us an unknown open port (e.g. 333: 3P_Backdoor, or similar) then this would be information that we could pass on to the CRT and maybe use ourselves.

You're right that we should not try to peek behind the curtain, but at this stage I'm not sure what is puzzle and what is real. Can you accept my point?

M

[SteveC]

[SteveC]

There's a reasonable primer above of what all the commands seem to do.

However, the basics are:

1/ put a command on the left column. So far we've had results with commands END and MOUNT here.

2/ Now - depending on the tile, the direction, other tiles and some sort of voodoo, the command path will pass to an adjacent square. You can easily find out which one by putting "RUN" in each adjacent square and seeing if it makes a valid grid (the error will be different).

3/ repeat stage two until you have a command path you're happy with (check out the wiki for some known examples)

4/ move your "RUN" out of the way of the command path and it will try to run it.

Cavets/

1/ The top-left-most command will kick things off. That will be the program's starting position.

2/ We have only found command paths that work when terminated by a cache.

3/ END brings you into one of three areas (no ENDs, one END and two ENDS before a MOUNT). We've only found things in the first and last though.

4/ POPEN, PWRITE, PREAD, FLUSH, COPY are essentially unknown quantities. We don't really know what they've done, and with the exception of the klebold plates file, they haven't been necessary.

5/ It's not outisde the bounds of possibility that RUN has an effect on the results (maybe which output you get when you get an infinite loop?)

So, if you can make any sense of the items in #4; if you can make any sense of WHY the klebold plates file gets spat out after that command path; if you can make sense of how to make infinite loops, why some work and why some don't; or if you can find any other files in any way:

wiki them, report them here, pop into #syzygy and have a chat

Errors:

maybe my private doc on these will help someone? I doubt it:

"No disk access" - you didn't put a mount in
"Timeout in Folder" - you didn't put a rotate in
"no area has been accessed": You didn't put a zone in

"Unable to reset read permission" - misuse of pread
"Unable to write to file" - misuse of flush
"Unable to reset open permissions": misuse of popen

"Unable to access file" - empty/corrupt location
"Unable to get read handle" - empty/corrupt location

"Session cannot be unloaded at this time" - You put an end in AFTER a mount
"All login sessions ended: File server inactive" - you put END END END before the mount

"File access denied" - you put run in the path at the end, not cache.

[duckiemonster]

[UKver2.0]

[Scribe]

Docs for beginners?

[SteveC]

[Ayanami Rei]

Is Ollie on the crack rock or something? nmap is a hacking tool? Have you been watching The Matrix Reloaded too much or maybe reading that scathing FBI report on how they were "advertising illegal hacking tools" in it?

[UKver2.0]

Is there any value in posting additional command paths that lead to outputs we've already seen?

Are there 100's of command paths (the loops) that produce the wigged out screen with the logs? Is there any reason to continue exploring these loops?

Is there an easy way to keep track of what you just created once it goes to an output screen? I've been using ethereal and when I stumble upon one I look at the ...programdata.php?1=ZONE&2=MOUNT... stuff. There must be a better way?

[SteveC]

To be honest, the most useful way of keeping note of a particular config is if you can decode it to it's command path.. eg, not the grid, but the actual order the commands are run in.

This often shows us that several configs are identical anyway...

As for infinite loops, I've found one or two - they've resulted in the same output, so i've not really bothered to document them.

[GasparLewis nli]

Everyone, this is Bobo.



Everyone, please direct your hate at Bobo.
Think every mean and angry thing at Bobo.
Don't say anything nasty, just think it.
Make points and cases, but no angriness.
Like explaining yourself, that's A-OK.
Not like accusing people of using crack.
Do that to Bobo; he's cool with it.
He doesn't mind; he's made of vinyl.
And don't just replace someone's name with Bobo.
He'll know you're still being mean to them.
And so will all of us, and we'll be sad again.
So, let's all blame it on Bobo; it's his fault.
OK?
OK.

Alternately:

EVERYONE GO BACK TO PEACE AND HAPPY SUNSHINE OR I KNOCK YER LIGHTS OUT!

( )

[Scribe]

[Brian Morton]

Gaspar I do bellieve that was the the best post in a long, long time. And I concur, please everyone this topic has been beaten down countless times with no resolution. I too was fuming today upon my discovery of Perplex City cards being sold at WAL-MART! (It pains me even to type it.) But after meditating on the holy vinyl stupa my anger is gone. Everyone here is far too intelligent and all around great people to be goaded into this. Now if I can only stop bitchin' about the new Guinness bottle design!

[xnera]