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Degausser
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Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 48 Location: The Static Cult
There is an interesting parallel that emerges immediately between Charles XII and Maxwell, that being that near the end of his life Charles was placed under house arrest in Istanbul. He escaped but died attempting to rebuild his kingdom.
That aside, the obvious answer to this joke is to make it a dig at ol' Charles (any other king would call that fool the second making the first one Charles XII, or some variation on that model), but I think that's too obvious.
EDIT: whoops, didn't notice that somebody had already quoted.
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:23 am
f
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Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 105
cards? This might be off-the-wall, but could this have something to do with cards. A fool is used in tarot decks and is usually given a value of zero.
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:30 pm
grumpyboy
Unfettered
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 660
update on Who is Max?
Quote:
I just checked Max's "lost page" and something had changed. The countdown was gone and the picture had a link attached to it. It leads to a sound file: "introductions.mp3"
A voice introduces himself as Maxwell B Prescott. He claims to be a captive in his own home and needs help. I'm really not sure if he addresses me alone, he doesn't use my name but just calls me his friend. I'm not his friend! I don't even know the guy!
He ends his message with a riddle and says it is a very difficult 'conundrum'
If there was one fool in the court of king Charles the twelfth
What number would he receive from any other king?
Maxwell also mentioned some research should be done. I checked wikipedia for Charles XII and apparently he was a king of Sweden; and, what's even more interesting, exactly the same picture as on the lost page is on the wikipedia site.
I guess I'm looking for some number, but I don't understand the fool or court parts… they probably mean or point at something else.
I'll just keep looking for more info or clues on that wiki site for now…
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:24 am
f
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Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 105
3073 and different page From a comment made by stonej on vjails blog ( http://vjails.blogspot.com/2007/06/introductions.html ) , I figured the answer might be 3073.
When I went to http://www.maxprescott.com/3073/ I figured it didn't work, because I got Page not found, but with different text than the other Page not found pages.
In black on black,
"This might indeed be an answer to a riddle.
However, still not all of the answers
lie were they seem.
The internet is vast. "
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:36 am
Stormalong
Decorated
Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Posts: 213 Location: Ontario, Canada
From Vjails blog:
Quote:
I guess I'm looking for some number, but I don't understand the fool or court parts… they probably mean or point at something else.
I'm guessing that we got the 3073 part correct.
From the hidden message at /3073/:
Quote:
The Internet is vast
I think this might mean we need to find another (new) website, related to "court" somehow.
_________________Jimmy has fancy plans, and pants to match.
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:08 am
trina5775
Greenhorn
Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 9 Location: so cal in the middle of the freakin' desert
join in? vjails hi all.
is it too late to join in??
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:27 pm
Transtar
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Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Posts: 165 Location: Annapolis, MD
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hi all.
is it too late to join in??
Not at all, this is only the 2nd or third puzzle (depending how you count). And we've been stuck here for a few days New insights would be appreciated
Also to possibly get some ideas flowing (I'm out of them)
Charles XII is also the name of a racehorse and Pub in england.
I'm thinking that the riddle might have to do with either of those. (something to do with a drunk person perhaps). Just an idea
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:37 pm
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trina5775
Greenhorn
Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 9 Location: so cal in the middle of the freakin' desert
joining [vjails] thanks! look foreward to everything going on!
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:42 pm
trina5775
Greenhorn
Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 9 Location: so cal in the middle of the freakin' desert
charlesXII and ect some checking ok..here is what i got so far...
charlesXII the pub is in helsington,york,north yorkshire
its mainly a college pub, the nearest college being university of york. that uni is big in the arts, social science and technology and has a big math dept. isnt viktor a math whiz?
let me know what ya think, meanwhile will look into the racehorse...
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:26 pm
Transtar
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Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Posts: 165 Location: Annapolis, MD
I tried the phone numbers of the bar in octal and the regular number on the main page.
Maybe I'll try those numbers as their own website.
Nope no luck
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:53 pm
subflea
Greenhorn
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 8
There is a new post on Vjail's blog.
http://vjails.blogspot.com/2007/06/what-to-do-with-3073.html
Quote:
A small update.
Stonej and f found that fool stands for 6001 in the octal numeral base and that would make it 3073 in decimal. I think that's the correct answer to the king Charles riddle, because when you open that page, /3073 there is a different page not found message than before.
This might indeed be an answer to a riddle.
However, still not all of the answers
lie were they seem.
The internet is vast.
This doesn't look like some new riddle but a pointer as where to use that number we found. Something else I found is that if you look at the properties of the picture, it is named "database"
It probably is another clue but I really can't think of anything it has to do with the riddle itself…
I'll let you know if I have any ideas about what to do with the number 3073
V
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:57 pm
Lycentia
Greenhorn
Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Posts: 7
Wiki says about King Charles XII
Apart from being a monarch, the King's interests included mathematics,
and anything that would be beneficial to his warlike purposes. He is attributed as having invented an octal numeral system, which he considered more suitable for war purposes because all the boxes used for materials such as gunpowder were cubic. According to a report by contemporary scientist Emanuel Swedenborg, the King had sketched down a model of his thought on a piece of paper and handed it to him at their meeting in Lund in 1716. The paper was reportedly still in existence a hundred years later, but has since been lost .
under Emanuel Swedenborg
In contrast, one of the most prominent Swedish authors of Swedenborg's day, Johan Henrik Kellgren, called Swedenborg "nothing but a fool "
Might have something to do with the riddle about the fool since the answer vjails posted 3073 had to do with the octal number system and the page we got the riddle on was called lost.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:13 am
Big_Larry
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Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 96 Location: Not there... maybe somewhere else.
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Something else I found is that if you look at the properties of the picture, it is named "database"
It probably is another clue but I really can't think of anything it has to do with the riddle itself…
So I Googled "Swedenborg" and "database" and got this:
http://www.lingfil.uu.se/swedenborg/
as the first result. There are a whole lot of sites related to Swedenborg, as well, but none of them appeared to be related in any way.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:16 am
misschris
Guest
charles XII ok jst so you all know i actually live in york so i got the adress for the pub and found out this
the pub chrles XII was named after the charles XII racehorse
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:08 pm
LandMASTER!
Veteran
Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 81 Location: Tampa, FL
Hi there. New here, but interested in this game.
I googled 3073 swedenborg and got this site:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/swd/sd/sd32.htm
and the verse for 3073 is:
Several times it was granted me to be present with those who spoke; and it appeared to me that I led them, and they did not know it; afterwards they observed it; hence may be known how one leads another, and speaks with another, and nothing else is perceived than that he speaks in whom is the thought and attention. - 1748, September 6.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:05 am
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