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MjolnirMkII
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I think that some of the people who run this ARG know that we analyze the pictures for stegonography and such, so they put in the description of the picture as bacteria to link us to the flood and what they could potentially be an evolution of. Now we know that we are dealing with two AIs, a forerunner facility in Africa, and the containment of the flood.
Everything points towards the Ark being in Africa and the setting off of the Halos to destroy the flood.
We at least know that much. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:47 am
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Killswitch333
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I haven't got the slightest clue. It almost feels like we're going in a totally wrong direction, but then again, if the picture wasn't significant in at least one way, the server 5 never would have given it to us.

*Note I found something else on serotyping or a group of microorganisms or viruses based on their cell surface antigens (a molecule that stimulates an immune response)


"Serotyping
In 1928, Rebecca Lancefield published a method for serotyping S. pyogenes based on its M protein, a virulence factor that is displayed on its surface.[2] Later in 1946, Lancefield described the serologic classification of S. pyogenes isolates based on their surface T antigen.[3] Four of the 20 T antigens have been revealed to be pili, which are used by bacteria to attach to host cells.[4] Currently, over 100 M serotypes and approximately 20 T serotypes are known."

Could one of the antigens be whatever created the flood? Note i'm kind of just pulling things out of my a$$ right now. I'm not a medical expert. I don't even know if what i'm saying is making any sense but I figured we might be able to come up with an explination if we all work on it.

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Looking at the image and these things... "Flood Containment Control"... "Infectious Study"... Considering how Adobe has a bunch of other things, maybe the paths we found were actually planned to be used in a flash of some sort. Maybe. it's a stretch.

I'm currently muddling around with it.
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garius
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part of me can't help suspecting that they're an editing artifact rather than anything else. As D-Railer's excellent overlay shows, they could quite easily be areas left behind as part of the image's construction process.

If you think about it this could have involved:

1) taking the original image from gettyimages
2) recolouring/leveling
3) croping, resizing and rotating it to achieve the desired "look"
4) the addition of the surround info (the ref# number, blackborder etc)

That's not to say that the subject of the image isn't relevant, just that the guides may be worth taking with a large pinch of salt.

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I think the slide is what is, a slide, filling out the backstory, I've all ready speculated in the bacteria thread what I think it is all about, remember people who created the slide, forget about the paths and guides, I'm sure the Forerunners didn't use Photoshop Smile

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pic

The pic is TOTALLY different from the one on the website. They are not even supposed to be the same microscope type. There's no way that this is a reproduction of that image. Considering there is a "true" BC3779-001 with the same description, I've no idea how to interpret this, but I can tell you that there are hundreds of pictures much much closer to this one that could be used as a starting place. Falsifying this photo from the SEM one on gettyimages.com would be a HUGE waste of time. We're supposed to be looking at these meta-tags. Also, if the paths were used to construct the image, why would the overlapping ones be moved to different sides of the picture? The one originally on the right ("small on top, big on bottom") would have stayed near the other one in the case they were "leave ons". And why would the other pics found not leave paths as well?

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garius
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I think the slide is what is, a slide, filling out the backstory, I've all ready speculated in the bacteria thread what I think it is all about, remember people who created the slide, forget about the paths and guides, I'm sure the Forerunners didn't use Photoshop


I'll second that motion.

Besides, everyone knows that all the truly enlightened alien races use Fireworks 4.

On a slightly more serious note, i'm starting to wonder whether we're missing a trick here: this is a slide and is labelled as such.

How many slideshows have just one slide?

True, the signicance of the filename probably lies in the date it gives, but given that this slide is NAMED wrong according to the REF number we can see in it, is it not possible that there are also similarly named "slides" in the same directory?

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When i was researching strep, it said some things about antigens (see my old post). Now antigens are caused to trigger an immune response. What if the flood was orginally created as a healing bacteria and everything kind of got screwed up in the midst of things? Also in the unedited photo the darkened line looks kind of like a sword. Could that be a reference to the mythical Cortana and Durandal swords?

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garius
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We're supposed to be looking at these meta-tags.


Just to be clear i agree with you 100% on this.

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Also, if the paths were used to construct the image, why would the overlapping ones be moved to different sides of the picture? The one originally on the right ("small on top, big on bottom") would have stayed near the other one in the case they were "leave ons". And why would the other pics found not leave paths as well?


In all honesty I'm more a website guy than an image manipulating guy, so you may have more knowledge in this area than me. For the record there were photoshop guidelines left in the star map though.

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garius wrote:


How many slideshows have just one slide?

True, the signicance of the filename probably lies in the date it gives, but given that this slide is NAMED wrong according to the REF number we can see in it, is it not possible that there are also similarly named "slides" in the same directory?


A slide is something you put under a microscope.

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Killswitch333 wrote:
When i was researching strep, it said some things about antigens (see my old post). Now antigens are caused to trigger an immune response. What if the flood was orginally created as a healing bacteria and everything kind of got screwed up in the midst of things? Also in the unedited photo the darkened line looks kind of like a sword. Could that be a reference to the mythical Cortana and Durandal swords?


Sansevieria ehrenbergii Sword Sansevieria, is a flowering plant which grows in Tanzania, It occurs notably in proliferation along the Olduvai Gorge in northern Tanzania. Mature leaves are dark green and usually range between 0.5-1.5 m in length and 2.45-8.0 cm in width. The plant grows in tight clusters and in close proximity amongst itself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sansevieria_ehrenbergii


This is my opinon that the "Sword" is a reference the plant (AKA: gravemind) Cortana will be our shield - he is the sword!

links back to this post http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=338507#338507

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About your antigens idea:

All pathogens (well, really all cells/cell-like entities) have antigens. They are just identification oligosaccharides (sugars) or proteins that are on the surface. Basically if an antibody (as in proteins produced by immune cells) binds to its specified antigen, it signals to immune cells that the cell it is bound to (in this case, S. pyogenes) is a "bad cell" and should be destroyed.

Antigens aren't "used for immunity". They are just a crucial step. And all cells have them.

Also, anyone notice S. pyrogens is not the name for strep? Strep is Streptococcus pyogenes, no r and an extra e. A pyrogen is a fever causing chemical, so this is saying (unless it's a typo): Streptococcus bacteria's pyrogens, which would make sense if this is an electron microscope, since the cell would be too large to see. The pyrogens, though, would be visible.

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garius
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A slide is something you put under a microscope.


Embarassed fair point.

i've obviously been hanging around management-types too long - they're more infectious than the flood. Wink

I do still wonder about the discrepancy between the filename (070107) and the in-image REF number though (070507),date connection aside, they do seem to suggest a series of images of which two may have been mislabelled.

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lso, anyone notice S. pyrogens is not the name for strep? Strep is Streptococcus pyogenes, no r and an extra e. A pyrogen is a fever causing chemical, so this is saying (unless it's a typo): Streptococcus bacteria's pyrogens, which would make sense if this is an electron microscope, since the cell would be too large to see. The pyrogens, though, would be visible.


So, assuming i'm reading that right, what we may be meant to be looking at - in theory - is a particular part of a bacteria from the Streptococcus family rather than a specific member of that family (i.e. Streptococcus Pyogenes).

So, this could be an "in game" Strep creation rather than needing to be the exact real world one we're all familiar with?

Would that be correct?

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bmeftw wrote:
About your antigens idea:

All pathogens (well, really all cells/cell-like entities) have antigens. They are just identification oligosaccharides (sugars) or proteins that are on the surface. Basically if an antibody (as in proteins produced by immune cells) binds to its specified antigen, it signals to immune cells that the cell it is bound to (in this case, S. pyogenes) is a "bad cell" and should be destroyed.

Antigens aren't "used for immunity". They are just a crucial step. And all cells have them.

Also, anyone notice S. pyrogens is not the name for strep? Strep is Streptococcus pyogenes, no r and an extra e. A pyrogen is a fever causing chemical, so this is saying (unless it's a typo):
Streptococcus bacteria's pyrogens, which would make sense if this is an electron microscope, since the cell would be too large to see. The pyrogens, though, would be visible.



I agree. Thanks for clearing it up and correcting me. I was kind of confused but figured someone eventually know what it meant. So we basically have a sound theory of what is under the microscope, we just have to figure out it's purpose. I still think it is an origin or starting point to the existance and history of the flood.

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