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[rose]

CONTACT:CHAT (BRIEF) S LAKE info will be emailed

[sauceykat]

Good job Rose!!! Now we need her Great-great GF's first name...

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[sauceykat]

OK, followup post:

I'm at work so I don't have much time, but I found a Willam S. Church b. Sep 9/1831 in Cortland County, NY (from Rootsweb).

Also, found a bunch of Church's who were politicians/Judges...the comment re: puritan/judgemental made me think either a Judge or a Quaker or something.

Here is the link for the politicians/judges named Church:
http://politicalgraveyard.com/bio/church.html

That's all for now...

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EDIT: look for Chief Justice Church, New York court of Appeals in mid 1800's--involved in constitutional cases. I can't find his first name, or Date of Birth, but he died in 1880.

EDIT #2: OK folks, I think I might have found him....Chief Justice Sanford Elias Church, b. 18Apr1815, d. 14May1880. Here is a link to his brief biography: http://famousamericans.net/sanfordeliaschurch/.
Could this mean that Ms. Church is related to Elias somehow? Or am I just SPEC'ing waay too much???

EDIT #3 (Sorry): found this website for a modern day Sanford Church, Public Defender in New York: http://rin.buffalo.edu/c_orle/safe/defe/defe_agen/orle_acp.html. I tried to email him but the email came back undeliverable. Sounds like a strange email for a public defender...is this ingame?

[rowan]

[sauceykat]

I have emailed Mr. Lake to see if he could confirm without breaking his non-disclosure agreement.

D-

EDIT: rec'd the following response:

Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:36:34 -0700
From: Steve Lake <Lake@landau-luckman-lake.com>
To: "D. Joyce" <djoyce@ideltech.com>
Subject: Re: Communication with Ideltech employees
Ms. Church's family history has been somethign L3 has seriously decided
to look into. I can't say any judges have come up while we dug.

Stephen



Guess I was on the wrong track....!

Now I'm thinking Frederic Church, the "Puritan" artist....

[rosie]

Judgemental was my word not his: sorry if that put you on the wrong track.
Quick cakculation: to make the math simple I estimate her birth in 1975 and that male in her family tree was 25 at the birth of the next. (does that make sense.) Probably they were younger, but this is just a rough guess.

I think her great-great grandfather had to be born sometime around or after 1875.

if she was born in 1975
say her father was born in 1950
grandfather 1925
great-grandfather 1900
great-great grandfather 1875

[Caterpillar]

No idea....but throwing it up anyway:

http://www.countyhistory.com/doc.dela2/013.htm

http://www.countyhistory.com/doc.dela/c008.htm

Mr. Church has shown himself to be a man of uncommon sagacity and discreetness of judgment, of scrupulous integrity and gentlemanly demeanor.

[sauceykat]

How about this one:

Ulysses Grant Church (a Lawyer)

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/4791/ulyssesgrantchurch.html

[enaxor]

I found this Church family history, the family has been here since about the beginning of the US. They came for religous freedom because they were Puritans.

http://churchtree.tripod.com/churchhist.html

Interesting note:
* Francis Pharcellus Church (1839-1906), son of Pharcellus, editor and lawyer, author of the famous editorial "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus."

edited to remove bad link

[sauceykat]

Apparently, the name Alecia is a variant of the name Alice, as found on this website:

http://www.weddingvendors.com/baby-names/meaning/alecia/

A possible clue?

D-

[rose]

Virginia

[enaxor]

Another Church I found (although I doubt this is the one) is from a company that was formed in 1846 by two newenglanders, "Church and Dwight Co". They are better known as "Arm and Hammer".

[rowan]

This just in from S Lake:

[19:22] lll_pllc: Did you find your Ms. Church's bloodline yet?
[19:22] the_rowan72: Unfortunatly I haven't. I've tried several different paths, but have come to a dead end on all of them.
[19:22] lll_pllc: That's too bad.
[19:22] the_rowan72: Any advice you could give me?
[19:23] lll_pllc: Did you know her ancestry actually knew Paul Revere?
[19:23] the_rowan72: Really? That's very interesting.
[19:24] the_rowan72: Did he fight in the Revolutionary War as well?
[19:24] lll_pllc: *Nods

Hopefully this will help.

Edit: List of Revolutionary War Vets with Mayflower descent: http://members.aol.com/mayflo1620/revolutionary_war.html
While Church shows up as ancestors name, only one vet has the last name of Church: Willard Church.

[Myssfitz]

Maybe I found the Mr./Dr. Church?? It's from the "True Story of Paul Revere".

[Greyelf]

I wonder if this person is related.

Benjamin Church
http://www.si.umich.edu/spies/people.html