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[SPEC]Audio he(a/r)rings.
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W-Three
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 		[SPEC]Audio he(a/r)rings.
A thread to discuss what you hear. (background chatter)
From dissecting the audio, you can hear a lot of background chatter.

I think we should make a list of what it is we hear, and when we hear it.

For one, in some channels you can hear alot more asking for Jason.

And you here someone saying "...in the subway", possibly either "Its in the subway", "Get in the subway" or something like that.



edit to add tag and clarify subject ~rose

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 		The odd sound I can't figure, is right before the first roar when the lights flicker..? It's merged with the roar... but it sounds non animal/creature...?

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 		My observations:


  • The line mentioned by W-Three I hear as "hit the subway".
    I think that's plausible because things are falling from the sky on a periodic basis (flaming debris, gigantic statue heads) and being in the subway tunnels would probably offer decent cover while still allowing movement to (hopefully) an escape route.
  • The line Rob speaks on the roof right after Hud says "Looks like you should've left town a little bit earlier." and before the explosion is "shut up". I don't think it's of any real importance though.
  • The line "What was that noise?" is spoken by Hud, based on the left and right (front) channels being almost solely the voice of the cameraman, established as Hud.
  • We hear drums as the partygoers are fleeing in the stairwell. This can be heard in the left surround and right surround (rear) channels. I think that's just someone having left music on when they fled, but because when the partygoers were listening to the news reports there was no music, it shouldn't be from Rob's apartment. This also suggests that they descended a several floors, because the sound is not heard in the stairwell earlier and later in the clips of the descent.
  • In one of the left surround channel you can hear a part of the sounds of the SoL head flying through the air, and it's almost certainly a stock sound of 'shrieking strings' you've heard in several horror films before. JJ really does seem to like to make references to the past of horror, doesn't he? Very Happy


Edit: Verified source and origin of last item.

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 		The sub-woofer audio
Hello, I downloaded those MP3s of the various channels, and the "sub" channel doesn't have a lot going on ( near as I can tell ) is a subtley different length ( I think 1 second ) and is identified by WMP as being Sonic Youth's "Untitled ( silence )" off of The Whitey Album.

Correction, not Sonic Youth, but Ciccone Youth.

Do I have the right audio track?
Is it just WMP trying to help ( I have it set to get media info automatically ) and it just so happens to match up with something else?

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 		BTW, for those that haven't seen this mentioned in other threads...

The HD versions of the 1-18-08 trailer have 5.1 surround sound, which means there are 6 discreet audio tracks. You can hear quite different things in each of the tracks.

I have all six audio tracks available for download here: http://cloverfieldclues.blogspot.com/2007/08/1-18-08-trailer-audio-analysis.html

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 		Re: [SPEC]Audio he(a/r)rings.
A thread to discuss what you hear. (background chatter)
W-Three wrote:
For one, in some channels you can hear alot more asking for Jason.


It's actually Jensen, per the French trailer. Smile

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 		Re: [SPEC]Audio he(a/r)rings.
A thread to discuss what you hear. (background chatter)
gypsy songman wrote:
W-Three wrote:
For one, in some channels you can hear alot more asking for Jason.


It's actually Jensen, per the French trailer. Smile

Sorry, but after listening to the tracks repeatedly and comparing them to the trailer video, I think I know where this confusion comes from.
Three times we hear the phrase in question uttered, and it sounds very much like Rob's voice. Each time the question is enunciated it sounds very similar, and in fact I think it's actually precisely the same every time. I think the reason for this becomes evident when you compare the left and right (front) audio channels to the same exact point in the trailer video. Rob's mouth isn't moving in a way that closely matches the words being spoken, but the audio does change from right to left channel at the same time Rob's head turns and the audio from his own mouth would change locations. This is pretty solid evidence that the lines were later dubbed into the audio tracks. Those audio tracks are pretty certainly NOT raw audio, as the roar was pretty obviously added later, and some other audio portions were dubbed into certain tracks for audio quality (the news report is ONLY in the center channel, with no artifacts in any other channel).

What I believe happened was that Rob was supposed to be frantically asking where Jason went, and failed to do so according to script or it was decided that once wasn't enough - or that the audio from the live recording wasn't good enough. When the track was created they repeated the line as dubbed or captured for the first instance, and repeated with with the increased volume and channel transition used in the later repetitions. In that first instance of the line, someone quickly responds "no". I think that N sound got into the crop used for the second instance, and that overlaps the third instance of the line. Thus, you get an N sound in the middle of "Jason". Now take that final fully mixed track and play it back for someone trying to translate the dialog, and being as that middle instance of the line is the loudest, you can see where conclusions for "Jensen" would be drawn from that.

I'll include a clip from said channels once I snip and render that bit on my Mac.
1-18-08_audio_jason.mp3
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 		Re: [SPEC]Audio he(a/r)rings.
A thread to discuss what you hear. (background chatter)
Euchre wrote:

What I believe happened was that Rob was supposed to be frantically asking where Jason went, and failed to do so according to script or it was decided that once wasn't enough - or that the audio from the live recording wasn't good enough. When the track was created they repeated the line as dubbed or captured for the first instance, and repeated with with the increased volume and channel transition used in the later repetitions. In that first instance of the line, someone quickly responds "no". I think that N sound got into the crop used for the second instance, and that overlaps the third instance of the line. Thus, you get an N sound in the middle of "Jason". Now take that final fully mixed track and play it back for someone trying to translate the dialog, and being as that middle instance of the line is the loudest, you can see where conclusions for "Jensen" would be drawn from that.


Having listenened to the seperated channels, I'm inclined to agree with you. Smile

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 		Re: [SPEC]Audio he(a/r)rings.
A thread to discuss what you hear. (background chatter)
gypsy songman wrote:
W-Three wrote:
For one, in some channels you can hear alot more asking for Jason.


It's actually Jensen, per the French trailer. Smile


I've mentioned this is another thread... I believe this was just translated wrong, especially considering they probably used the stereo mix of the trailer, and not the individual tracks we have here.

If you listen to the "Jason" clip I have on my blog, you can hear the name Jason said three times - I think it's from the center channel.

Here's what I hear from the various tracks around 1:24.

Center
Female: Jason!
Male: Anybody Seen Jason? Jason?
Female: Is he inside?

Left
Male: Listen, has anybody seen Jason?

Right:
Male: Anybody seen Jason, yes or no?
Male: Anybody seen Jeff?

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 		A lot of the stuff we will find will most likely be useless.

But some scene setting is in place. For example, we hear car alarms, people remarking on hearing sirens. And as Euchre, we can assume that Rob's party was several floors up.

Also, a while back people were claiming that nothing actually shook, but the shakiness was the cameraman scared. However, in one clip we hear somone remarking on tremors and things shaking.

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W-Three wrote:
A lot of the stuff we will find will most likely be useless.

Only if you think of the 'game' here as some trail of clues leading up to some prize we can win. I think the 'game' here is to figure out the story leading to the movie, and figure out as much of the basic story as we can before we see the movie. In this case, the audio from the trailer is all about figuring out what's really going on and what's in the movie as our 'prize'.
We'll only know who 'wins' when we go see the movie.

Something I've been pondering is the sound that follows the second roar in the trailer as they are on the roof, right before we see (and hear) the full eruption and fireball of the explosion. It sounds to me as if it's a combination of a really hard stomp and the initial destruction or explosion of what's been stomped on - and presumably leads to that later, larger fireball.
Tell me what you folks think - listen to the left and right (front), and left and right surround (rear) audio tracks. Don't include the center channel, as that's mostly dialog and 'filler' noise.
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