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RyoShin · Boot Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 27

[NOT SOLVED?] Odd noises in the bee sound files

**Posted:** Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:48 pm

RobMagus

In #beekeepers, zeal mentioned that he/she is working on manipulating the wavs, I believe.

Zeal, can you give us more info?

**Posted:** Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:22 pm

hollow1 · Greenhorn Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 5

Just a quick note

Was mentioned in another thread the the "queen piping" wav was a slowed down seagull.

I did some research and found out that that is not a slowed seagull, that is actually a noise that a queen bee will make. Specifically when she is trapped in a cell in a hive and is calling for worker bees to protect her from any other "queens" in the hive.

**Posted:** Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:30 pm

Zeal · Guest

I've split the wavs into five seperate audio channels and I have a few people helping me analyze them. As for the bees comment, that is highly interesting. Although I can't confirm anything as of yet, I'm using various professional level audio software to pick it apart. I'm also looking for possible encrypted information. I'll keep you updated.

**Posted:** Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:35 pm

White Knight · Guest

Yeah I noticed the mystry sounds about a week ago when cath(at least i think it was her) posted them.....but we didn't get round to pulling it apart to look at the mystry noises

**Posted:** Sat Jul 24, 2004 5:42 am

Kishan · Guest

If you play the queen bee file reversed, it seems like someone laughing....

**Posted:** Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:37 am

Fraxxxi · Guest

when you view the bees1.wav in a spectrum analyzer, it looks like there were some letters and numbers in there, I think I can make out "P925", although of course it might be entirely coincidental or just me beginning to see things.

**Posted:** Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:40 am

sea_mink · Boot Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 19

I think hollow1's interpretation of this sound is misleading.

It's a queen bee piping all right,
but the queen is not crying Help!,
she's saying I'm Getting Ready To Kill You All!

This kind of piping is apparently called 'tooting',
which according to beesource.com
http://www.beesource.com/pov/wenner/sci1964.htm

**Posted:** Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:28 pm

nobodyman

I ran it through an audio filter...

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:42 am

eMouse · Decorated Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 179

Try playing it at 2.5x the normal speed.

"Help me. Please, someone (try to help me?)"

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:14 am

nobodyman

eh... I'm not sure

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 12:27 pm

Danelope · Greenhorn Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 5

I'm wondering if some form of steganography has been applied to the WAV files, wherein subtle changes are made to an audio or image file to store data in less-than-obvious ways. The subtle warbling/digitized effect in these sounds could theoretically be the result of these changes.

I've tried opening the WAV files in S-Tools but they weren't recognizable as WAV format. Perhaps this is more telling than not.

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 12:38 pm

MasterCheese · Veteran Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 84

This is the file for all you people wanting it at the right speed

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 12:50 pm

nobodyman

I still can't discern what, if anything, is being said. It *is* unusual though.

regarding stenography and s-tools. there could be a steg in there, but the fact that the app didn't recognize the format is not especially telling -- wav files can be encoded with a variety of codecs and my guess is that stools just doesn't recognize it.

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:21 pm

Fraxxxi · Boot Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 Location: Austria

**Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:39 pm

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