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[Trailhead] Fucktinag!
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Star Spider
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 		[Trailhead] Fucktinag!
No No! I am not being vulgar! It is really a game!

This morning I found this in my in box:

http://www.123greetings.com/view/MM10222020128138

which led me here:

http://www.freewebs.com/fucktinag/index.htm

Anyone into code breaking?

I have been chatting a bit with the PM - doesn't take themselves (himself?herslef?) too seriously - I like it Very Happy

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:05 am
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kosmopol
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 		Wow, Unfiction is IG Smile

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:17 am
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Lovek
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kosmopol wrote:
Wow, Unfiction is IG Smile


No one's ever tried that before... Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:19 am
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thebruce
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 		yup got it as well. initially it was just the front page, but now there are links to a couple more.

main page leads to
http://www.freewebs.com/fucktinag/heaven.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/fucktinag/permalink.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:22 am
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Macavity
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 		Heh, I got this too. And truth be told, I've managed to get all the way to the end of the currently-available pages.

(I have to wonder, though - considering a couple of the linked pages, is this PM the same guy who worked on Ketsui Chan? The pages in question do have that sort of vibe to me . . . )
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:25 am
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Star Spider
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 		Cool!

I like the whole infinate thing...

I suspect it might be the same guy who did Ketsui Chan - as he told me that I have played some of the other games he has done - and I was looking into Ketsui when it got shut down!

I am excited to see where this goes - I wonder what this whole fuck tinag is? I think that he has the right idea though Wink

Although I am not inclined to be so vulgar about it Smile

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:30 am
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catherwood
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 		from the duplicate thread:
Macavity wrote:
...(and using the email ihatetinagSPLATgmail.com) ... Is it an ARG about someone who hates ARGs?

I read it as someone who hates the TINAG philosophy. Unfortunately, I think what they want to create isn't really an ARG in the tinag sense, but an art project. Now I really don't know what triggered this, and i probably don't care, but it reads like someone who tried to have a dialog with their "players" and got shot down. But if their original project was to be a participatory art experiment, then it didn't have to be an ARG at all. The problem (as i see it) is that unfiction is not really set up for that, unless you stick it under the Timewasters category or set up your own forum. The trend in viral marketing does include user-generated content mixed with dialog and feedback from the game, and I'm not sure that violates TINAG. Perhaps this "discreet art" outburst is really railing againg the UF Terms of Service -- or perhaps I've completely misunderstood this whole exercise. (It wouldn't be the first time.)

p.s., as a trailhead, i did find it to be entertaining, with a variety of codes in there as red herrings. Oh, and the one youtube video about the zombie reality game was great, thanks for pointing me there.

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Axys Denyed
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 		Disgruntled much?
Apparently we have a disgruntled PM. Specifically someone who seems to be mad at UnFiction. After looking in the page source on http://www.freewebs.com/fucktinag/permalink.htm, it said:

Quote:
To get to the next page, can you tell me, what have the last ones been about???

(it was on the page, but hard to see against the background)

Here's where I've gone so far:

http://www.freewebs.com/fucktinag/unfiction.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/fucktinag/okaycalm.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/fucktinag/men.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/fucktinag/art.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/fucktinag/pokemon.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/fucktinag/seriously.htm

Lots of "get over yourself" and "you're all idiots" mentality coming from these pages. Now, in order to get the next step, we apparently need to email some art to ihatetinagSPLATgmail.com
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:41 am
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DarknessRising
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 		make a pokemon ARG?

I am going to say it right here, I hope that people dont start to flood the forums with these things.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:43 am
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kosmopol
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 		I like Rob on http://www.freewebs.com/fucktinag/okaycalm.htm hehe

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:45 am
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Star Spider
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 		Well I wonder where this notion came from that just because something does not employ the tinag concept makes it not an ARG?

I think the GM is making a good point (albeit a little less on the insulting might work a bit better - but I am sure there is something to it).

I personally think the concept of tinag is flawed. I mean if it is for the characters to behave like characters that kind of goes without saying - I mean it would be like a character in a movie looking at the camera and saying 'this is a movie' of course the character thinks it is real that is the whole point!

If it's for the players - of course they will play like it is real - that is role playing - if they didn't they would be calling the cops when a car gets stolen or some one gets killed!

And if it is just meant to acentuate that the game is supposed to be realistic I think a better moniker could be used. I mean IT IS A GAME. And how are you supposed to play something if you don't know it is a game?

I am not sure how this GM's points all tie in together - but I have been chatting with him/her and I suspect it will become clear eventually.

I was drawn to this genre in the first place because I saw it as an opportunity to be artistic and free - bending and breaking the rules that we are locked into in our everyday lives. Now I fully understand that some sort of structure is needed to create a game world - however I don't think the ARG genre should be so limited as to suggest that just because a person is saying it is a game that their art should fall outside of the bounds of ARG land. I think that is taking a very limited viewpoint for what I see as a limitless medium!

THIS IS A GAME!

I sent some art - we will see how it turns out Smile

(All comments above are strictly IMO and I am a scientifically minded person which means if I am offered a logical alternative to the way I think I will gladly accept it! Feel free to enlighten me Smile

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Axys Denyed
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Star Spider wrote:
Well I wonder where this notion came from that just because something does not employ the tinag concept makes it not an ARG?

I think the GM is making a good point (albeit a little less on the insulting might work a bit better - but I am sure there is something to it).

I personally think the concept of tinag is flawed. I mean if it is for the characters to behave like characters that kind of goes without saying - I mean it would be like a character in a movie looking at the camera and saying 'this is a movie' of course the character thinks it is real that is the whole point!

If it's for the players - of course they will play like it is real - that is role playing - if they didn't they would be calling the cops when a car gets stolen or some one gets killed!

And if it is just meant to acentuate that the game is supposed to be realistic I think a better moniker could be used. I mean IT IS A GAME. And how are you supposed to play something if you don't know it is a game?

I am not sure how this GM's points all tie in together - but I have been chatting with him/her and I suspect it will become clear eventually.

I was drawn to this genre in the first place because I saw it as an opportunity to be artistic and free - bending and breaking the rules that we are locked into in our everyday lives. Now I fully understand that some sort of structure is needed to create a game world - however I don't think the ARG genre should be so limited as to suggest that just because a person is saying it is a game that their art should fall outside of the bounds of ARG land. I think that is taking a very limited viewpoint for what I see as a limitless medium!

THIS IS A GAME!

I sent some art - we will see how it turns out Smile

(All comments above are strictly IMO and I am a scientifically minded person which means if I am offered a logical alternative to the way I think I will gladly accept it! Feel free to enlighten me Smile


Perhaps you should read up on the definition of TINAG. It doesn't have anything to do with the players. Wink

I believe TINAG is absolutely needed. After all, if they characters realize they're just characters in a game, they cease to exist, as does the game world. There are some places that characters just can't be allowed to go, such as UnFiction itself, as this will show them that they are in a game. TINAG is needed to keep the alternate reality from crashing down around its ears. However, this is a little too META for a trailhead thread Very Happy
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Everything's Magic
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 		Woah, woah... this is so trippy.

unFiction being "in-game." He sounds like a pissed off member who always gets ignored.

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The Mirror
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 		Got this too. Mine led me to a cheesy valentines day card. Been talking to the PM. S/he seems fun and clever. Here's the convo so far:


ME:Thank you for the card. The music was so great that it made me slow dance on the beach after a long walk in the moonlight.
The Mirror

PM: Hell yeah! That's the kind of humor I want!
Did any penguins dance with you? They work for the FBI, you know...

ME:Who are you?

PM:Who are YOU?!

ME: 1.61

PM: 3.14!

ME:Phi and pi. Hee hee.

PM: Golden ratio, and the unending number!

Me: Are you IG?

PM: Yes! And so are you!

Me: 48hoursinpurgatory?

PM: Nein, forever in hell!

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Star Spider
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 		I have read alot about the concept thank you kindly Smile

And I have heard people refer to tinag as a concept that umbrella's players as well - there seem to be quite a few thoughts on the matter actually.

But I still believe that the genre should not be limited like that.

I don't think the game should have to come crashing down if a character became self aware. That is kind of like saying our reality ceased to exist when we as a species became self aware. I think a self aware character could be build into the game form without the universe crashing and burning. I believe that ARG's should be flexible enough to accomadate any eventuality. Hence the 'interactive' part of it. If something doesn't go as planned should the plan not be changed?

I like how this GM is questioning the 'norms' and expanding the boundaries. I think it can be just as entertaining either way!

Anyone else sent any art in?

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