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 		Appoligies if this has been addressed (I did not want to wade through console fights and Rick Rolls >_>), but has anyone tried to see if there in anything under the black lines on the third picture?

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Clover wrote:
Appoligies if this has been addressed (I did not want to wade through console fights and Rick Rolls >_>), but has anyone tried to see if there in anything under the black lines on the third picture?


you mean in the transcript? could see anything, just looks like that's where the page ends. besides, that conversation seemed very over. haha

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Clover wrote:
Appoligies if this has been addressed (I did not want to wade through console fights and Rick Rolls >_>), but has anyone tried to see if there in anything under the black lines on the third picture?

I was considering some sort of attempt to check if there's a metadata history of sorts in the image, to see if it can be rolled back. Some JPEG images have this sort of thing inserted in them by some image editors. I can't remember which of my image editors supports the most effective exploring of the metadata (inlcuding the exif data, which I think I used Photoshop Elements 2.0 on my old Mac mini to read previously), so I hadn't pursued it yet. I would encourage others to do so, since I previously noted that the redacted (black lining) was done on top of a scan and print of the original document.
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 		Euchre,
Didnt one of the slusho seven have a photobucket site or something like that? maybe there is a photobucket site somewhere.

*edit- maybe this is what Alyse is talking about in May 5th blog

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Euchre,
Didnt one of the slusho seven have a photobucket site or something like that? maybe there is a photobucket site somewhere.

*edit- maybe this is what Alyse is talking about in May 5th blog


That would be Jamie, I remember that from wayyy back at the beginning of all of this. Here is the account:

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z234/sarahnettleute

That doesn't seem to be her account though, I assume "Sarah Nattleute" is someone else entirely not involved with this.

Honestly, I don't think they'd bother bringing back that old photobucket account anyways.

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 		Not the same account, but seems they are keeping it simplied like the missing file comment then find usgx8810b467233 site. Now she references a photoshop...might mean a photoshop account or website.

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 		I'll see what I can find on the jpg I'm a little rusty ~ haven been in the Graphic Arts field for almost 8 years but I'll poke around the file a bit and see if there is anyway to get past those blocks. (but would greatly appreciate anyones input that might know more about jpg encoding)


((BTW this is how I Rickroll www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KANI2dpXLw Heh Rickrolling for the creative weirdo in all of us))


EDIT: not my video just incase anyone was wondering
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I'll see what I can find on the jpg I'm a little rusty ~ haven been in the Graphic Arts field for almost 8 years but I'll poke around the file a bit and see if there is anyway to get past those blocks. (but would greatly appreciate anyones input that might know more about jpg encoding)


((BTW this is how I Rickroll www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KANI2dpXLw Heh Rickrolling for the creative weirdo in all of us))


EDIT: not my video just incase anyone was wondering


lol..yep Teddy is beaker in disguise, the song is a code to Alyse.

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 		Dont hack the photobuckets if we find one please...refer here to the many posts for info for you new guys...and if we need to hack it theyll tell us.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21463
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 		I couldn't find anything in the metadata. (with what I have)

Only things I noticed was that the transcript had been printed out and then a marker was used to black out the lines. (yeah obvious but let me explain)

The differances in the inks from the memo and the marker are noticable when you push the contrast up and drop out the shadows. The marker ink looks like it maybe tannin based as it had a definite reddish tint. (if someone finds that helpful let me know but I can't see how it will)

No text is visable under the marker streaks even with colors inverted.

So what this all means is that there are 2 possible ways the Memo could have been made

A) document was printed (possiblly on an older inkjet on the draft setting) then a marker was used to block out the good stuff and then scanned at a very poor resolution.

B) document was printed (possiblly on an older inkjet on the draft setting) then a marker was used to block out the good stuff and then scanned. Document was then Photoshopped to reduce resolution and one of the halftone filters applied to give the dotted appeance (I don't think this is likely since the marker lines have very clear edges and not a halftoned edge)

Personally I believe "A" is the most likely

Either way it "appears" that even if the final version was made in photoshop that the "juicy bits" are not going to be in a previous version of the file.

But just in case I am wrong someone using windows might want to try to find a JPG metadata recovery tool. I looked for a Mac version but the pickings were slim.
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Vern345 wrote:
I couldn't find anything in the metadata. (with what I have)

Only things I noticed was that the transcript had been printed out and then a marker was used to black out the lines. (yeah obvious but let me explain)

The differances in the inks from the memo and the marker are noticable when you push the contrast up and drop out the shadows. The marker ink looks like it maybe tannin based as it had a definite reddish tint. (if someone finds that helpful let me know but I can't see how it will)

No text is visable under the marker streaks even with colors inverted.

So what this all means is that there are 2 possible ways the Memo could have been made

A) document was printed (possiblly on an older inkjet on the draft setting) then a marker was used to block out the good stuff and then scanned at a very poor resolution.

B) document was printed (possiblly on an older inkjet on the draft setting) then a marker was used to block out the good stuff and then scanned. Document was then Photoshopped to reduce resolution and one of the halftone filters applied to give the dotted appeance (I don't think this is likely since the marker lines have very clear edges and not a halftoned edge)

Personally I believe "A" is the most likely

Either way it "appears" that even if the final version was made in photoshop that the "juicy bits" are not going to be in a previous version of the file.

But just in case I am wrong someone using windows might want to try to find a JPG metadata recovery tool. I looked for a Mac version but the pickings were slim.


WOW! Nice work!

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Vern345 wrote:
I couldn't find anything in the metadata. (with what I have)

Only things I noticed was that the transcript had been printed out and then a marker was used to black out the lines. (yeah obvious but let me explain)

The differances in the inks from the memo and the marker are noticable when you push the contrast up and drop out the shadows. The marker ink looks like it maybe tannin based as it had a definite reddish tint. (if someone finds that helpful let me know but I can't see how it will)

No text is visable under the marker streaks even with colors inverted.

So what this all means is that there are 2 possible ways the Memo could have been made

A) document was printed (possiblly on an older inkjet on the draft setting) then a marker was used to block out the good stuff and then scanned at a very poor resolution.

B) document was printed (possiblly on an older inkjet on the draft setting) then a marker was used to block out the good stuff and then scanned. Document was then Photoshopped to reduce resolution and one of the halftone filters applied to give the dotted appeance (I don't think this is likely since the marker lines have very clear edges and not a halftoned edge)

Personally I believe "A" is the most likely

Either way it "appears" that even if the final version was made in photoshop that the "juicy bits" are not going to be in a previous version of the file.

But just in case I am wrong someone using windows might want to try to find a JPG metadata recovery tool. I looked for a Mac version but the pickings were slim.


Glad to see you largely concur with my conclusions I posted oh, 4 days ago and 18 pages back.

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When I played with the memo image, I noticed a couple of things. I am not sure if it's the result of how they generated the image alone, or if it's supposed to sort of 'tell the story' of how they got to where they are now. The printing and scan pattern are indicative of either a fax or flatbed scanner (or primitive xerography), but when I zoomed in and pushed the levels around I see that the pixels are color. Faxes and copiers only do black and white by design, so this is basically an artifact of a flatbed scanner. The obscuring marks are pretty solidly black though, so if the item was scannned initially, it was then printed and marked on, then rescanned. This basically means the document would have been scanned, sent via a medium that preserves color, then printed and redacted, then scanned again and uploaded.


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Euchre wrote:
Vern345 wrote:
I couldn't find anything in the metadata. (with what I have)

Only things I noticed was that the transcript had been printed out and then a marker was used to black out the lines. (yeah obvious but let me explain)

The differances in the inks from the memo and the marker are noticable when you push the contrast up and drop out the shadows. The marker ink looks like it maybe tannin based as it had a definite reddish tint. (if someone finds that helpful let me know but I can't see how it will)

No text is visable under the marker streaks even with colors inverted.

So what this all means is that there are 2 possible ways the Memo could have been made

A) document was printed (possiblly on an older inkjet on the draft setting) then a marker was used to block out the good stuff and then scanned at a very poor resolution.

B) document was printed (possiblly on an older inkjet on the draft setting) then a marker was used to block out the good stuff and then scanned. Document was then Photoshopped to reduce resolution and one of the halftone filters applied to give the dotted appeance (I don't think this is likely since the marker lines have very clear edges and not a halftoned edge)

Personally I believe "A" is the most likely

Either way it "appears" that even if the final version was made in photoshop that the "juicy bits" are not going to be in a previous version of the file.

But just in case I am wrong someone using windows might want to try to find a JPG metadata recovery tool. I looked for a Mac version but the pickings were slim.


Glad to see you largely concur with my conclusions I posted oh, 4 days ago and 18 pages back.

Euchre wrote:
When I played with the memo image, I noticed a couple of things. I am not sure if it's the result of how they generated the image alone, or if it's supposed to sort of 'tell the story' of how they got to where they are now. The printing and scan pattern are indicative of either a fax or flatbed scanner (or primitive xerography), but when I zoomed in and pushed the levels around I see that the pixels are color. Faxes and copiers only do black and white by design, so this is basically an artifact of a flatbed scanner. The obscuring marks are pretty solidly black though, so if the item was scannned initially, it was then printed and marked on, then rescanned. This basically means the document would have been scanned, sent via a medium that preserves color, then printed and redacted, then scanned again and uploaded.


In other words, Trout

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Ouch.

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Euchre wrote:
In other words, Trout

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The best I've seen Euchre!

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