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[SPEC] The Hivekuts Clips - Where They Go, What They Add
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Zanzibar
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Moe. Oh my God. That's just brutal. My deepest sympathies.

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I feel for ya man, Halo 2 will take a lot of us away from friends and family (intervention time will be needed)....... oh yah and sorry about the dumb cowboy thing.
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I deserve a hug.

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*gives Moe a wierd uncomfortable Man hug* This doesn't leave the thread. Laughing
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Wiseblood wrote:


Do you sound like a young Michael J Fox when you say it?



"Doc, are you telling me .. you built a time machine ... out of a DeLorean???"

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MarauderIIC
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Hey, if you're going to build a time machine, might as well do it in style. :)

Edit - To avoid this being just spam, how does this seem for an updated (afaik :P) list? question marks seem to be bracketing things im not sure about :) Meanwhile, I am going to try to avoid saying "sorry if this is trout" because a lot of posts seem to contain that, and I don't see how it's quite possible to keep up with all 500 posts a day. Oh. And I'm new, been lurking a bit -- hi.

jersey stuff -
x -> exclusive_license ("6:20, 6:30, something like that...") -> ? -> the_human_heart -> curious_girl -> ? -> awful_fast -> ? -> creepy

kamal/hiro -
cute_little_caps -> pony_tail -> ? -> bracelet -> ? -> blue_then_red -> my_family -> shock_sticks ("what time is it anyway?") -> trigeminal -> red -> i_hate_you -> ? -> tack_hammer -> ? -> dude

officer/jan -
pigeon -> ? -> frustrated -> ? -> on_time -> ? (def. something else here) ->
right -> standard_procedure -> ? -> creamsicle -> ? -> miracles -> asset -> ?
code_nothing

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Can we now speculate that since durga is listening in, that the 3 stories in the first set of axons are not simoutaneous and that there wasn't a power surge? that the blackouts suffered by each party was due to durga's infiltration into thier chatter systems?

If we find out from unrevealed clips when exactly durga started listening to kamal this will all make more sense. but for the moment that's my speculation. The story threads are only simoultaneous in respect to the fact durga is listening to each live.

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Prisoner2401 wrote:
What is up with "not me, but another dog that looks just like me"??? And why the Russian accent???

I've never heard the phrase before ILB. It doesn't even appear to be a Russian idiom (based on a few searches I've done; if you're very familiar with Russian and I'm wrong, please correct me!). And yet it seems like one can reasonably expect everyone in the future to know this idiom, or joke, or whatever it is...

There are only two characters we know that are aware of the joke, Kamal and Sophia. They are both from Coral, so my deductive skills tell me, maybe it is a Coral joke.

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Mazian
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MarauderIIC wrote:
Hey, if you're going to build a time machine, might as well do it in style. Smile

Edit - To avoid this being just spam, how does this seem for an updated (afaik Razz) list? question marks seem to be bracketing things im not sure about Smile Meanwhile, I am going to try to avoid saying "sorry if this is trout" because a lot of posts seem to contain that, and I don't see how it's quite possible to keep up with all 500 posts a day. Oh. And I'm new, been lurking a bit -- hi.

jersey stuff -
x -> exclusive_license ("6:20, 6:30, something like that...") -> ? -> the_human_heart -> curious_girl -> ? -> awful_fast -> ? -> creepy

kamal/hiro -
cute_little_caps -> pony_tail -> ? -> bracelet -> ? -> blue_then_red -> my_family -> shock_sticks ("what time is it anyway?") -> trigeminal -> red -> i_hate_you -> ? -> tack_hammer -> ? -> dude

officer/jan -
pigeon -> ? -> frustrated -> ? -> on_time -> ? (def. something else here) ->
right -> standard_procedure -> ? -> creamsicle -> ? -> miracles -> asset -> ?
code_nothing


Q: How to avoid Trout ?
A: Search?

kalamazoo's list

Search for tack_hammer

partial on the kahmal/hiro story arc

more partial on the kahmal/hiro story

Cool linkage to every reference I could find.

Also, my SPEC:

Code:
Key to below:
[[... is used for long rewind, or act start
[...  is used for short rewind, or scene start
...   joins clips
...]  is used for short wind, or scene end
...]] is used for long wind, or act end


Jersey/Durga
I SPEC you are out of order. I think it should be: [[...the_human_heart...curious_girl...exclusive_license...good_at_my_job...awful_fast...?real?...creepy...]]

I also WILDSPEC that real is the most likely candidate (based on clip titles, I think the other cold axon's all fit in to other story arcs) for the missing clip between awful_fast and creepy. Edit: I might be wrong about my real WILDSPEC. We'll see today, I hope.

Also, where good_at_my_job goes in the list is based on someone else's SPEC/transcript.

kahmal/hiro
I SPEC there is no clip between i_hate_you and tack_hammer.

The order as I see it is:

[[...cute_little_caps...pony_tail...][...freelance...bracelet...][...panic_button...?code_word?...][...blue_then_red...visa...my_family...shock_sticks...trigeminal...red...i_hate_you...tack_hammer...] ?raining_cops? ...dude]]

Visa is someone else's SPEC (but I've lost the link), and raining_cops is my SPEC based on the available clips. Freelance is my SPEC based on someone else's transcript of that clip. Edit: [SPEC] code_word comes after panic_button, which clearly goes between Aiden's visit to Kahmal's house (freelance...bracelet) and the dinner later that evening (blue_then_red ...->... tack_hammer) [/SPEC]

officer/jan
[[...pigeon...accessorize...frustrated...][...to_do...on_time...code_nothing...][...anything_illegal...right...standard_procedure...?drt?...][...creamsicle...miracles...asset...]]

Another link to someone who took the to_do call

the placement of drt is SPEC based on the transcript of standard_procedure and anything_illegal.


A bit of SPEC on my part, possibly ORIGINALSPEC (I did a search and read almost every post with the word Durga in it):

Has anyone else noticed that there are no short winds/rewinds in the Jersey/Durga story arc like in other story arcs? I SPEC this indicates that Jersey/Durga is the primary character in this story. This makes sense, since Melissa is attempting to contact her crew, and Durga is also an AI that was on something "larger" than Jersey's system. A link between the two is logical.

Lastly, I think the WILDSPEC about time travel is silly. I think the assumption that must be made is that we're supposed to be in the time of the story, not that the story went back in time. After all, if Melissa/Durga are AI's, and there are no AI's in the present time frame, then it makes more sense for us to "pretend we're in the future", than to "pretend we're interfacing with an AI from the future."

Occam's Razor and all that.

Edit: anything_illegal and to_do released
Edit: panic_button released.

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Mazian
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maskdmirag wrote:
Can we now speculate that since durga is listening in, that the 3 stories in the first set of axons are not simoutaneous and that there wasn't a power surge? that the blackouts suffered by each party was due to durga's infiltration into thier chatter systems?

If we find out from unrevealed clips when exactly durga started listening to kamal this will all make more sense. but for the moment that's my speculation. The story threads are only simoultaneous in respect to the fact durga is listening to each live.


Pure SPEC.

Most likely all of the stories start at the same time, but if you listen to the Kahmal/Sophia story from the first axons list, the clips occur over at least two days if not more. The first date in parasites, the date gets called away on business. This sounds like a dinner date.

In our_hoodlums sounds like a restaurant date again, which sounds like dinner to me. The background sounds from meditape sound like an outdoor walk with night sounds (crickets!).

So that's two nights, and that story arc isn't even over yet.


Oddly enough, the other two story arcs are much more confined in their timeline.

The most important thing to remember is that with an AI like Durga, monitoring multiple CP streams should be no problem. Especially if Durga can "pinch" Navy AI's.

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Hey, did anyone notice that the cop who was harrassing Kahmal and Aiden was told to go there before Kahmal came even to eat dinner? (Durga uncovered this in exclusive_licence) I think that someone other than Kahmal sent the cop because the cop was there just as Kahmal sat down at his Chatter, and he was there without a cue from Kahmal to Hiro. This brings the question, who sent the cop to scare everone?
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MarauderIIC wrote:
Hey, if you're going to build a time machine, might as well do it in style. Smile

Edit - To avoid this being just spam, how does this seem for an updated (afaik Razz) list? question marks seem to be bracketing things im not sure about Smile Meanwhile, I am going to try to avoid saying "sorry if this is trout" because a lot of posts seem to contain that, and I don't see how it's quite possible to keep up with all 500 posts a day. Oh. And I'm new, been lurking a bit -- hi.

jersey stuff -
x -> exclusive_license ("6:20, 6:30, something like that...") -> ? -> the_human_heart -> curious_girl -> ? -> awful_fast -> ? -> creepy

kamal/hiro -
cute_little_caps -> pony_tail -> ? -> bracelet -> ? -> blue_then_red -> my_family -> shock_sticks ("what time is it anyway?") -> trigeminal -> red -> i_hate_you -> ? -> tack_hammer -> ? -> dude

officer/jan -
pigeon -> ? -> frustrated -> ? -> on_time -> ? (def. something else here) ->
right -> standard_procedure -> ? -> creamsicle -> ? -> miracles -> asset -> ?
code_nothing

I have to say I disagree with the order you have for Jersey and Jane. This is how I see it going.

Jan
pigeon > ? > frustrated > ? > on_time > code_nothing > ? > right > standard_procedure > ? > creansicle > miracles > asset

Jersey
the_human_heart > ? > awful_fast > ? > curious_girl > exclusive_license > ? > creepy

I might be wrong with Jersey; but if you listen to Jan's this way, it just fits.

Coopster wrote:
Hey, did anyone notice that the cop who was harrassing Kahmal and Aiden was told to go there before Kahmal came even to eat dinner? (Durga uncovered this in exclusive_licence) I think that someone other than Kahmal sent the cop because the cop was there just as Kahmal sat down at his Chatter, and he was there without a cue from Kahmal to Hiro. This brings the question, who sent the cop to scare everone?


If you listen to the audio in exclusive_licence, it is Aiden that is talking to the cop. He is the one that set up the whole thing.

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Coopster wrote:
Hey, did anyone notice that the cop who was harrassing Kahmal and Aiden was told to go there before Kahmal came even to eat dinner? (Durga uncovered this in exclusive_licence) I think that someone other than Kahmal sent the cop because the cop was there just as Kahmal sat down at his Chatter, and he was there without a cue from Kahmal to Hiro. This brings the question, who sent the cop to scare everone?


As said in post previous to this one:

Trout

See my post above:

specifically see good_at_my_job

if the transcript is near accurate, and taking in to account exclusive_license, which is available for anyone to listen to, we're listening to Aiden make a deal with the cop to (paraphrased) "show up, bang on the door and look menacing."

which happens in the other act, in the shock_sticks scene.

Genom wrote:
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Jersey
the_human_heart > ? > awful_fast > ? > curious_girl > exclusive_license > ? > creepy

I might be wrong with Jersey; but if you listen to Jan's this way, it just fits.


Disagree, see my post above for why.

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Moe, here's what you need to do:

obviously these cowboys are so stupid that they can't remember a 15 minute old conversation, you can use this to your advantage... time for some social engineering

go to goodwill or the salvation army, buy a blue short-sleeve shirt and matching pants, prefferably Dickies brand... if you can swing it, get a hard hat too, the thrift store might even sell old iron-on patches, find one that fits.... print out a fake phone company ID on your computer, laminate it and hang it on your belt (you don't even need to use a real company name... call it "apiary communication services") get some old bits of phone hardware(a black handset) and electronics test equipment(like a voltometer) and hang those from your belt too, and finally, get a clipboard with some fake forms... a pair of big thick safety-goggle-like glasses wouldn't hurt either

now, just march up there and say that you've heard of some "problems" with this phone and that 'the office' is going to test it and you NEED to answer it to give the "automated test computer" the proper codeword

as the axon wav file plays, pretend to jot down some notes on your clipboard... when its done, thank the cowboys politely and leave

also, if one of your buddies has a white van or pickup truck you can borrow, try to drive that, if not, keep your car out of site... chances are, they won't even notice what you're driving

GOOD LUCK!
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CoffeeJedi wrote:
Moe, here's what you need to do:

obviously these cowboys are so stupid that they can't remember a 15 minute old conversation, you can use this to your advantage... time for some social engineering

go to goodwill or the salvation army, buy a blue short-sleeve shirt and matching pants, prefferably Dickies brand... if you can swing it, get a hard hat too, the thrift store might even sell old iron-on patches, find one that fits.... print out a fake phone company ID on your computer, laminate it and hang it on your belt (you don't even need to use a real company name... call it "apiary communication services") get some old bits of phone hardware(a black handset) and electronics test equipment(like a voltometer) and hang those from your belt too, and finally, get a clipboard with some fake forms... a pair of big thick safety-goggle-like glasses wouldn't hurt either

now, just march up there and say that you've heard of some "problems" with this phone and that 'the office' is going to test it and you NEED to answer it to give the "automated test computer" the proper codeword

as the axon wav file plays, pretend to jot down some notes on your clipboard... when its done, thank the cowboys politely and leave
*snip*


IMHO that's the best piece of social engineering that I've ever heard. Nicely thought out and virtually bomb-proof. (If the cowboys are as bad as you said).
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