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 		ahhhhh so the emphasis was "were they inside the book"... I had no idea you meant as opposed to inside the envelope and 'part of' ~ 'inside' Wink
And thus, 'a very different book' for me was referring to Flynn's book vs the Tron manual, and for you referring to the Tron manual vs (???)... hehe

yeeshk. That makes more sense now, haha


I've wondered the same re more to discover in the pages and whatnot, but haven't sat down to really examine the details... hopefully this weekend will afford more time to look things over more closely.
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thebruce wrote:
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Also, I'm with Madopal, those loose pages are part of the Tron manual, not The Digital Frontier.

Uh, thought that's what I said... Confused folded and placed inside, from a very different book...
*me is confused


Sorry, I just reread your original post and realized I misread it... Embarassed

I can scan in my four pages if you guys want, but I don't think there is anything additional to them. They are literally straight from a Tron cabinet manual. I tried all four pages with the key and the only one that worked was the one that yielded the node code.

That said, if you want the scans, I can get them up!

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FSURobbie wrote:
thebruce wrote:
FSURobbie wrote:
Also, I'm with Madopal, those loose pages are part of the Tron manual, not The Digital Frontier.

Uh, thought that's what I said... Confused folded and placed inside, from a very different book...
*me is confused


Sorry, I just reread your original post and realized I misread it... Embarassed
That said, if you want the scans, I can get them up!


Please do! If you could, get a scan of the cover dust-jacket too please. That would help a lot when trying to re-create the badge for my button project.
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 		Mad, I think you and I were thinking waay to into it. The park by printers row that had the same general shape as the 89 forever symbol. The thinking that there were multiple levels of this hunt. (book cypher leads to a map to a movie theater etc)

If we had thought simplicity (42E doing nearly the same location in the city both times) we probably could have stayed at the starbucks in union station and as soon as the photo came up walked half a block and been done in 60 seconds.

I think though that the over-thinking made it even more fun, added a bit more depth to the game and I know for me added to the adventure

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Kidjim25 wrote:
If we had thought simplicity (42E doing nearly the same location in the city both times) we probably could have stayed at the starbucks in union station and as soon as the photo came up walked half a block and been done in 60 seconds.

Take it from me, that idea of the drops tending to be in the same place wouldn't have been a reliable thing. Ours were miles apart.

The things that actually amaze me most about the books is that:
1. They were bound specifically for this purpose - they didn't just make dust jackets and slap them on another old book they hollowed out.
2. They used a bar code on the back that isn't a actual scannable bar code. Its actually fairly hard to generate a series of lines like that which simply will not result in a code - bar codes are scalable, proportional, and span a really large character set. To generate a series of clean, uniform lines that can't even translate into gibberish actually takes some effort.
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The things that actually amaze me most about the books is that:
1. They were bound specifically for this purpose - they didn't just make dust jackets and slap them on another old book they hollowed out.


Yeah, that really impressed me as well. The books were really well done.

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Euchre wrote:
2. They used a bar code on the back that isn't a actual scannable bar code. Its actually fairly hard to generate a series of lines like that which simply will not result in a code - bar codes are scalable, proportional, and span a really large character set. To generate a series of clean, uniform lines that can't even translate into gibberish actually takes some effort.

Actually, the barcode on the back of the book is precisely the same as the one you see on http://flynnfrontier.com/excerpts.htm for this book - identical; nothing new, but it is decodable.

The other barcode on the Dumont package decodes to the same confirmation code on the Tron sticker. Those were the only two barcodes from the drop, and both are valid barcodes.
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 		I know the barcodes are the same, but I was not able to get the ones from the site to decode, and we were not able to get one on the book to scan and decode. If you did, what did it come out as?
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I know the barcodes are the same, but I was not able to get the ones from the site to decode, and we were not able to get one on the book to scan and decode. If you did, what did it come out as?


That code was a HelloFlynn file. Each of the books' barcodes were file codes. All from the Arcade Aid quiz v2 trail.
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 		Hmm, I don't recall reading about that step (I wasn't there for that puzzle solve live).

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 		I have the dumont barcode in front of me how does one go about decoding it.

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 		EDIT: There was some gibberish here about the codes being mostly gibberish.
Turns out my barcode toolz aren't up to snuff.
See thebruce's post from last month:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=757125#757125
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Kidjim25 wrote:
I have the dumont barcode in front of me how does one go about decoding it.
You need a bar code scanner such as on in the iPhone or android OS.

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 		HelloFlynn.com
madopal wrote:
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FSURobbie wrote:
Yes, all the books were the same, to my knowledge the only difference between them all was the puzzle key on the last page.

...and the 3 pages inside


You mean the printed ones, not the cut out page that was glued in?

Because I'm curious if everyone has the same binary here:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7922/20101208221859.jpg

Because that one is just "257" repeated 4 times.


Please tell me someone has already entered: 257257257257 into HelloFlynn.com.

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 		Re: HelloFlynn.com
Adm_BlackCat wrote:
madopal wrote:
thebruce wrote:
FSURobbie wrote:
Yes, all the books were the same, to my knowledge the only difference between them all was the puzzle key on the last page.

...and the 3 pages inside


You mean the printed ones, not the cut out page that was glued in?

Because I'm curious if everyone has the same binary here:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7922/20101208221859.jpg

Because that one is just "257" repeated 4 times.


Please tell me someone has already entered: 257257257257 into HelloFlynn.com.


Damn, that should have occurred to me. But yup, it's a code. About the book tour.

Quote:
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Notes: The book tour is winding down, along with my sanity. More confounding visions bleed into my waking nightmare - totalitarianism, a mechanized police state, inhumanity upon inhumanity. I dedicated my entire live into opening this portal, but now I just want it to close.

I'm seeing the world in ratios and proportions -- comparing the pros and cons of my very existence as if they're raw data in a lifeless code. Hopelessness and possibility, bravery and regret, loss and discovery...Jordan is gone, but Sam is my savior. I can't quantify these powerful forces, yet I can't stop trying.

The balance is shifting.


Now if only that was an achievement code...but no. Smile
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