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[META] 8-23-04 Where are we?
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konamouse
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 		[META] 8-23-04 Where are we?
What needs to be done to solve the mystery of the House of Dread and bring those responsible to justice?

Find Ron.
    - do we need to get into his voicemail (is the first message something we need to hear)? Why give us his phone number if we aren't suppose to use it?
    - did he leave a clue in his blog or on his website, or the last message that we got from lastwishes (aside from the map which was his phone number).
    - or is he already dead?
    - did he leave more files from the CD (s) he found that "Ed" left? Are they hidden on his website?
    maybe he left the files on his business site, puzzlenet? Speaking of which, we still have card #3 (diet puzzle) to solve .


Urbanmythology.
    - strong suspicions that there is more to be found from the articles posted the past two weeks.
    - start googling from the stories (isn't that how we found other websites)?


DreadHouse.
    - guess we are waiting for a realworld clue (snail mail).
    - my own SPEC: This is "Ed", our mysterious ex-TT webmaster, or a good friend of his.


CMH.
    - who is Old Todd? If he is a 'tunnel person', what did he do while TT was there in production? Right now he may be our number one suspect for doing the dirty work (murders) during production.
    - who is Charles and why didn't he see all the tv crews and stuff? TV productions are a very obvious site, even with 'construction' fences. Did he actually help Old Todd (trying to keep the public away from his beloved hospital)?


Dead Poems
    - okay, Aug 24th is going to be dangerous around UF. Lots of bees will be buzzing around and it could beat the record 234 logged in at the same time.


Which brings us to the META of it all; How is Dream Projector tied into House of Dread. Current SPEC (I think) is that people started dreaming about what was happening at the hospital during the filming of the show and they traveled through space (and we got to see some of those images). But also, did Ann dream about it as well (did the images travel through time, because they were in the same location and she was getting electroshock therapy) - and then draw and write about her dreams?

Okay, that's about all that was going through my mind while I was out for my morning jog.

Let's go Hunters! Smile
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 		what we need to do
Wow! Nice work, Kona. Talk about immersion.
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 		Excellent summary!

Re UrbanMythology:

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-strong suspicions that there is more to be found from the articles posted the past two weeks

In addition to the suspicions we have about the last set of stories, we have to take into account the 'Not Spam' UM email. As this was sent to Varin towards the start of the game (end of July) does this not suggest there is something that we have missed on UM from a much earlier date? Might be something to add.


EDIT - Never mind. But still, excellent summary!

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 		Varin reports she got it in her spam box and thinks it was in response to an email at the beginning of the game, but the rest of us noticed it all around the same day (last week) and I regularly have been checking my spam box since this game started. When I got a response from Amanda about my registration on her site, it went into my regular email.
But, yes, we could have missed something since the beginning.

So, start googling folks.
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 		Ah, okay, Varin's latest post in the Not Spam thread clears it up. So the email was received by most of us on the same day.. hence ignore me ever saying anything Smile

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 		Excellent overview, konamouse.

However, I have one quibble, and one addition.

First, I disagree with the implication of your second point under CMH:

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- who is Charles and why didn't he see all the tv crews and stuff? TV productions are a very obvious site, even with 'construction' fences. Did he actually help Old Todd (trying to keep the public away from his beloved hospital)?


I don't think that Charles is necessarily being deceptive, just because he is not yet convinced that a TV production happened at his beloved hospital. Remember what he said in his latest update:

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Most of the areas pointed out to me were under heavy construction in the spring of 2003, and were totally inaccessible to anyone but the construction crews because they were working to remove asbestos and other hazardous materials.


So first, he said they were "working to remove asbestos," which would explain away all sorts of plastic sheeting, and other barriers a lot more substantial than just a standard construction fence (all for the 'public safety,' right?). Also, remember that Charles no longer lives right next to CMH, but has to travel there, which he only does occasionally. If he heard there was heavy construction, he might just have cosen not to travel to CMH while Dread House was filming, an so would have no first hand knowledge.

In terms of convincing Charles that Dread House was real, the newspaper scrap may actually be the most convincing piece of evidence. If he could confirm that the article was real (or ideally even get a copy of the entire article), that would probably inspire him to talk to other local residents who were nearby while the "construction" (filming) was going on.


Also, since urbanmythology.net has listed two items on the psychological effects of sound, one of them directly linking sound to dreams, I think we should definitely be following up on that angle too. I believe "mood altering sounds" (for lack of a better term) were definitly used at CMH, though I don't yet know if there were natural or artificial (or both).


Finally, I have already done a lot of Googling for urbanmythology.net legends, and have turned up a lot of interesting out-of-game info, but nothing that was obviously relevant. Still, it might be useful, or at the very least might save other people the time of chasing the same leads. Is ther an apropriate thread I should post it to? Or should I just update the Wiki urbanmythology.net section with all the info about the relevance (or lack thereof) of each of the myths?

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 		Just for the sake of mentioning it, "mood altering sounds" are reality, and there has been a lot of research about it - which probably means that it'll be humongous amounts of information about it...

*Buffpojken's playing the devil's advocate*

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"mood altering sounds" are reality, and there has been a lot of research about it - which probably means that it'll be humongous amounts of information about it...


Absolutely. As an example of what I've found Googling from UM.net, their post on "Something Sounds Funny" led me to this article about a real "sonic bullet":

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/paperboy.cfm?id=685942002

The article, in turn, led me to this company, which actually makes the device described:

http://www.atcsd.com/

Even though both of these sites are clearly out of game, the information is still very interesting. I strongly suspect out PM has seen one or both of them.

Of course, UM.net goes on to talk about infrasound (sounds below the range of human hearing), which have long been rumored to cause emotional reactions, usually fear, in people exposed to them. Unlike the "sonic bullet," the infrasound/fear connection does not appear to be supported by science. However, there's no reason it couldn't be used in-game, and I still think we may very well see that in the future.

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Schnell-Davis wrote:

First, I disagree with the implication of your second point under CMH:

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- who is Charles and why didn't he see all the tv crews and stuff? TV productions are a very obvious site, even with 'construction' fences. Did he actually help Old Todd (trying to keep the public away from his beloved hospital)?


I don't think that Charles is necessarily being deceptive, just because he is not yet convinced that a TV production happened at his beloved hospital.


That point was probably partially inspired by my series of wild speculations starting on this page, culminating in the absolutely crazy "what if Charles IS Old Todd" spec that I put here.

Blame me, not kona.

[Edited for brevity - by konamouse]

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What needs to be done to solve the mystery of the House of Dread and bring those responsible to justice?


As a bit SPEC, I would think that UM is going to (thus far, at least) be an excellent place to drop our hard evidence whenever we get it. Providing Amanda/Ed doesn't beat us to it.
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 		Re: [META] 8-23-04 Where are we?
konamouse wrote:

- who is Charles and why didn't he see all the tv crews and stuff? TV productions are a very obvious site, even with 'construction' fences. Did he actually help Old Todd (trying to keep the public away from his beloved hospital)?

I don't think so - He's trying, in a way, to RAISE the profile of the hospital - not keep people away from it. His most recent update says he "loves to play Tour Guide". If he was trying to keep people away from CMH, running a website and playing tour guide would seem like a spectacuarly stupid thing to do.

I was thinking about this, and this is the best I can come up with. It's no huge surprise that Charles might not have heard about the show. Tomorrows Talk WERE trying to keep it quiet, after all. However, Charles DID state that many of the areas which seemedviable for Dreadhouse were "under construction" in the spring of 2003, when Dreadhouse would have been filmed.

Charles wrote:
Most of the areas pointed out to me were under heavy construction in the spring of 2003, and were totally inaccessible to anyone but the construction crews because they were working to remove asbestos and other hazardous materials. And later that same year (June, I think) many of the buildings in that same area were demolished.

I'm unfamiliar with the building industry, but it is common to remove Asbestos and harmful waste before you destroy a building? I mean, I admit that it doesn't seem like an entirely unreasonable idea to me, but it also doesn't seem to defy logic that it could have been Tomorrows Talk themselves, in an attempt to keep people away from the site of their latest reality TV show venture.

I can't imagine they'd want to stick up a big sign saying "WE ARE FILMING DREADHOUSE HERE".

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 		Re: [META] 8-23-04 Where are we?
konamouse wrote:
What needs to be done to solve the mystery of the House of Dread and bring those responsible to justice?

Find Ron.
    - do we need to get into his voicemail (is the first message something we need to hear)? Why give us his phone number if we aren't suppose to use it?
    - did he leave a clue in his blog or on his website, or the last message that we got from lastwishes (aside from the map which was his phone number).
    - or is he already dead?
    - did he leave more files from the CD (s) he found that "Ed" left? Are they hidden on his website?
    maybe he left the files on his business site, puzzlenet? Speaking of which, we still have card #3 (diet puzzle) to solve .


So, 1 1/2 months later (has it been that long?)
The voice mail was a means for Ron to get our phone numbers.
We still haven't found anything in the blog, we just never found it in time (would that we have found it while Ron was still working at TT?)
At least he is still alive (and traveling to Dream Projector with Jaimie).
Yes, there is still one more disc for us to open (when is Ron going to post it?).
And he did post something on Puzzlenet, but it wasn't the third disc.
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