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kelwhite01
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Comic Book Cipher Possibilities for the comic book cipher So, the latest STIES chat left us with an open issue. Mysterio states:
[Host]: you should be able to use the comic and my notes to decode it now
So Josh has the comic and the notes, or the "code book" and "ciphertext". The question is, Do We? We can get to an online scan of the comic book, but do we have the notes or "ciphertext"? We need to look at all the things Mysterio has provided and determine if the ciphertext is within them, basically everything uploaded to the PDP11. Scans, photos, and sound files are these the notes we need to decode?
Thoughts?
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:00 pm
Melodyman
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Joined: 28 Nov 2007 Posts: 943 Location: Los Angeles
Well, M did tell Josh to upload the code from the book so he could solve something he had been working on.. which appears to be the maps he posted..
So, Josh has it, M has it, but we havent been given any link to it as far as we know..
The comic seems to be the Classics Moby Dick shown by Josh with the TROGL written on it and the reference to Back Binder..It makes reference to Rachel but so far, nobody has found the key here..
The notes?
Unless they are waiting for us to find locked in the PDP11, I dont know what notes he is talking about,,..or how he got them to Josh without us seeing them.. if it were the EXPCNV tones, there has never been any mention of them since they were posted.. Josh has never acknowledged that he understands them and anyway, M says 'my notes' which dont really make sense if its the EXPCNV since those would be 'the notes'..
Either we have missed something or we have to wait for some more clues..
A very disjointed and one sided ARG so far..
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:47 pm
shredderIV
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Perhaps the numbers on the maps indicate page # and word # in the book?
Either that or the comic actually refers to a comic that he's gonna upload and we just have to wait a while.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:54 pm
pushing50
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shredderIV wrote:
Perhaps the numbers on the maps indicate page # and word # in the book?
Either that or the comic actually refers to a comic that he's gonna upload and we just have to wait a while.
and wait .... and wait ... and wait
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:46 pm
zort70
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Joined: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 226
I go away for a few days and it all kicks off !
Lets just check, that we are all agreed that the comic is the Classics Illustrated Number 5 Moby dick -
http://www.tkinter.smig.net/ClassicsIllustrated/MobyDick/index.htm
Also the "Notes" that are referred to are in the Braegen14 file and are the golden ratio numbers 16180339
or is the code the frequency numbers from the notes ?
550, 800, 550, 900, 500, 650, 650, 950
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:57 am
zort70
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Interesting -
Theodore Alvin Hall (Ted Hall) sent secret information to a Soviet diplomat who sent that information on using a one-time pad cipher.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Hall
Trouble is I'm struggling with the application.
I can see that the text of the Moby Dick comic could be used as the random text, but I'm not sure how to apply the numbers.
[Edit] The text of the comic could also be the message and we have to figure out the pad, I've tried combinations of letters based on the musical note sequences or substituting numbers for letters but I can't seem to get anything useful.
I've also thought that the golden ratio numbers could be paired and relate to page numbers from the comic e.g.
16
18
03
39
I say 03 as the page number on the online site needs 03 in the URL
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:41 am
Tim in Ohio
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Joined: 23 Feb 2011 Posts: 73
Zort I looked at that too, agreed it's a possibility. I had wondered after reading about this if "EXPCNV" was part of a ciphertext even with it being the mysterious audio but I'm not getting any ideas on where the one-time-pad (text) would come from.
For anyone that's interested, here's an online encoder/decoder
http://www.braingle.com/brainteasers/codes/onetimepad.php
Another possibility (although slimmer and probably already mentioned) is the Bible/Torah Code. It's been used with Moby Dick before, but what text we'd be searching for is the tricky part.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:23 pm
untricky
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Something has been bugging me with the comic in the print out from STIES.
The picture show the inside cover and page 1. Looking through the pages on http://www.tkinter.smig.net/ClassicsIllustrated/MobyDick/index.htm I can't seem to find a matching picture.
After a bit of clicking around, actually a few hours, it seems that the Classics Illustrated is into its 15th or so printing.
Could Josh's copy be an early or rare edition and we just haven't found the source yet and the PMs aren't releasing the cyper until we find the right edition?
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:29 pm
untricky
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Coincidence? Rachel...
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:43 pm
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kelwhite01
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untricky wrote:
Something has been bugging me with the comic in the print out from STIES.
The picture show the inside cover and page 1. Looking through the pages on http://www.tkinter.smig.net/ClassicsIllustrated/MobyDick/index.htm I can't seem to find a matching picture.
After a bit of clicking around, actually a few hours, it seems that the Classics Illustrated is into its 15th or so printing.
Could Josh's copy be an early or rare edition and we just haven't found the source yet and the PMs aren't releasing the cyper until we find the right edition?
I found a page out there that shows the alternate artwork for the splash page (that second page). The one Josh has is the harpoon artwork, the alternate is from your link above. I'd think the body of the comic is the same, but we'll see. I think we're waiting for Mysterio's notes, or it could play out like FFSH, a chat will reveal that Josh has already decoded the comic and followed the clues to the next step.
Zort has tested out the numbers and isn't coming up with anything workable, so I guess we wait.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:48 pm
Melodyman
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Joined: 28 Nov 2007 Posts: 943 Location: Los Angeles
untricky wrote:
Coincidence? Rachel...
yes, I mentioned this the other day. Its the only reference to this puzzle I could fine in the comic.
No trout as i'm about ready to trout this whole game!!
C'mon!! Lets boogie already..
By this time in Star Trek and Cloverfield, we were immersed in puzzzlements..
I hope JJ hasnt sent the check yet..
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:31 pm
Bobbywan
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Ok, so I've been tracking down the exact issue of the Moby Dick comic that has the correct splash page and correct first page. I now have it in my hands. Sorry for the quick phone pics.
Last page to compare to other versions
I'll flip through it at work tonight when I have time.
Bobby
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:10 pm
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kelwhite01
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Excellent!!
Where did you find/get it? Does it compare to the online scans? The online scans don't have the advertisement, so having the exact one will be good.
GREAT JOB!!
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:02 am
pushing50
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kelwhite01 wrote:
Excellent!!
Where did you find/get it? Does it compare to the online scans? The online scans don't have the advertisement, so having the exact one will be good.
GREAT JOB!!
Here is better quality image of the advertisement.
The thing that caught my eye is this image comes from issue #12 and page #68. Sound familiar anyone? Too bad none of the other numbers seem to yield anything.
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:35 am
untricky
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Awesome Bobby!
Scans would be awesomer!
(it's a word... look it up)
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:47 am
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