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Sirnot1
Boot
Joined: 18 Nov 2011 Posts: 17 Location: New York, New York
pravado wrote:
These forums are dead
I think many people are on vacation for spring break, thus the little traffic this week.
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:46 pm
Lithp
I Have No Life
Joined: 04 Mar 2012 Posts: 2058
censura_umbra wrote:
Just thought I would argue semantics, but we are all stating hypotheses. A theory would be a hypotheses that has practically been proven true. Some popular theories would be Tim = Masky and Jay = Lacking common sense.
Anyway, thought I would "contribute" since I haven't been on in a while
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Yes, thank you. Honestly, I wouldn't say that "hypothesis" is even right half of the time, because a hypothesis is supposed to have some rational basis based on previous evidence. But it is the closest approximation to a random idea.
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:42 pm
McGregor
Unfettered
Joined: 30 Mar 2011 Posts: 520
pravado wrote:
Also Jay lies way more than once. Maybe only once to us, but he lies to alex/tim/jessica multiple times
He only lies to Alex/Tim/Jessica for good reasons or that he doesn't trust them.
But I was talking about to us. People bring up the unreliable narrator thing because Jay lied one time. Actually, did he really even lie? Didn't he just not tell the audience that he was filming himself? That wasn't a lie cause he never said that he wasn't. Or am I forgetting about something else?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:49 pm
Lithp
I Have No Life
Joined: 04 Mar 2012 Posts: 2058
Yeah, I think we need to go over context real quick:
Firstly, people bring in the "unreliable narrator" thing to justify theories on the basis that Jay plays some grand deception to us. There is not evidence of this. Even his blatant lies to Alex/Tim/etc. aren't really that elaborate. Or, for that matter, convincing.
Then we head over to the "lie by omission" claim, but this is usually used in the context of a person intentionally obscuring the truth. We have no basis on which to believe that Jay didn't simply neglect to mention him filming himself because it wasn't yielding any results, so he didn't think it was important.
We can make some pretty decent predictions of a character's thoughts, provided we stick with the evidence. For instance, pretty clear that Alex hates & possibly fears Hoody.
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:11 pm
Hazman
Entrenched
Joined: 04 Jan 2013 Posts: 878 Location: New Zealand
Lying by omission is lying, if it's on done purpose. If you honestly forgot about it, I wouldn't call it lying. But in the case with Jay not saying about filming himself it's a hard one to call if it's lying or not. It's not hurting anyone, other than himself.
Sorry if it doesn't make sense
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:35 pm
Lithp
I Have No Life
Joined: 04 Mar 2012 Posts: 2058
I've said before, I think ToTheArk uses a different definition of "lying" than the modern consensus. To him, a lie is literally any statement or action that does not convey the absolute truth.
Which would make him hiding himself in a mask pretty goddamn hypocritical.
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:43 pm
Animal
Decorated
Joined: 01 Sep 2012 Posts: 293
Anyone else notice Tim limping at the end? Does masky still feel that broken leg he suffered all the way back in season 2(?)
Which is weird because by the end you would think that he's back in his normal state at that point
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:55 pm
Sir Scratchyhat
Greenhorn
Joined: 02 Apr 2013 Posts: 5
On another note Alex Kralie's birthday is coming up. I hope that ToTheArk holds up his promise that last year was his last. I'm expecting a new MH or TTA on the 4th.
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:47 am
paladin181
Unfettered
Joined: 14 Nov 2011 Posts: 502
Sir Scratchyhat wrote:
On another note Alex Kralie's birthday is coming up. I hope that ToTheArk holds up his promise that last year was his last. I'm expecting a new MH or TTA on the 4th.
Expect all you want. With Troy's surgery and recovery, I don't expect another entry for a few weeks at BEST. They probably won't be filming for at least 2 weeks.
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:13 pm
pravado
Unfictologist
Joined: 22 Apr 2011 Posts: 1833
paladin181 wrote:
Sir Scratchyhat wrote:
On another note Alex Kralie's birthday is coming up. I hope that ToTheArk holds up his promise that last year was his last. I'm expecting a new MH or TTA on the 4th.
Expect all you want. With Troy's surgery and recovery, I don't expect another entry for a few weeks at BEST. They probably won't be filming for at least 2 weeks.
I don't think it will be that long. Plus, they might not even need Troy to film if he has no dialogue.
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:36 pm
Sir Scratchyhat
Greenhorn
Joined: 02 Apr 2013 Posts: 5
pravado wrote:
paladin181 wrote:
Sir Scratchyhat wrote:
On another note Alex Kralie's birthday is coming up. I hope that ToTheArk holds up his promise that last year was his last. I'm expecting a new MH or TTA on the 4th.
Expect all you want. With Troy's surgery and recovery, I don't expect another entry for a few weeks at BEST. They probably won't be filming for at least 2 weeks.
I don't think it will be that long. Plus, they might not even need Troy to film if he has no dialogue.
I'm guessing it would'nt be a Jay/Troy entry. Probably posted by Hoody or totheark
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:26 pm
Ztakk
Entrenched
Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 868
pravado wrote:
paladin181 wrote:
Sir Scratchyhat wrote:
On another note Alex Kralie's birthday is coming up. I hope that ToTheArk holds up his promise that last year was his last. I'm expecting a new MH or TTA on the 4th.
Expect all you want. With Troy's surgery and recovery, I don't expect another entry for a few weeks at BEST. They probably won't be filming for at least 2 weeks.
I don't think it will be that long. Plus, they might not even need Troy to film if he has no dialogue.
Troy said in a blogpost that filming will resume once his hair is grown back from his surgery and the packing in his ear is dissolved. I don't know how long this takes, but I would still assume that they have some stuff already filmed to use.
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:27 pm
CraicIsMighty
Unfettered
Joined: 03 Aug 2011 Posts: 497
They'd still need someone to edit the videos though. Troy might not be up to that yet.
I'm not expecting a new entry for at least another week, unless it's something really simple like 67.5. And I'm pretty sure that Hoodie trying to shoot Alex was their attempt to fulfill TTA's threat. I doubt anything is going to happen on April 3rd or 4th.
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:31 pm
whatwasit
Boot
Joined: 13 Jan 2013 Posts: 23
CraicIsMighty wrote:
They'd still need someone to edit the videos though. Troy might not be up to that yet.
I'm not expecting a new entry for at least another week, unless it's something really simple like 67.5. And I'm pretty sure that Hoodie trying to shoot Alex was their attempt to fulfill TTA's threat. I doubt anything is going to happen on April 3rd or 4th.
Didn't he edit the past two Nature Break videos?
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:16 pm
Hazman
Entrenched
Joined: 04 Jan 2013 Posts: 878 Location: New Zealand
whatwasit wrote:
Didn't he edit the past two Nature Break videos?
What's there to edit in the Nature Break videos tho?
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:57 pm
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