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[THe_Smakus]

My $0.02

[Nightmare Tony]

Oea wrote:

There's people here who've been 'playing' ILB much longer than SOME of the 'crew members' and have done more work.

Krystyn wrote:
This is pretty much an unquantifiable assertion.

I would say that its absolutely true. unfortuantely, none of those players are presently here. We call them BETA TESTERS.

[Oea]

Look,

The idea of 'deserving' being a crew member is not what i'm saying. I was saying the way it was implemented wasn't very good, excuse the last comment as it came out wrong.

I mean, I think it's a genius thing for an ARG to do, and groudbreaking. I just think that it could have been done better, in a more competitive way. The way, there wouldn't be quite as much of the backlash as there is now (Of course you'll always have some).

If the thing was done competitively, the winners would be qualified most likely (If the 'competition' if you will, was done right.) It would further make the 'game' much more interesting, keep the entire community working like crazy, with the end result being (hopefully) the best and the brightest represent us. Maybe even a voting system would have worked better. but not randomness.

By no means to I dislike the current crew members, they are all great and intelligent people in the community, and I respect them, and it's not my intention to demean them in any way.

[ironchefmike]

[thebruce]

I'm not here *cough*

[Dragonrider]

[Oea]

[SuperJerms]

[krystyn]

I dunno - I think anyone who was able to take the live call, keep their head enough to answer the initial question, be asked questions, and then carry on a conversation well enough in order to keep Melissa happy and trustful to get to the point where she asks for an alternate means of communication ... that takes a fair bit of work! In order to get a good enough feel on what Melissa's personality is like, and what, exactly is at stake for her in the conversation, - that seems to require a fair amount of understanding of the context, barring memorizing every single last detail in the Halo universe.

I guess where I was going earlier, too, was beginning to question what your definition of 'work' is, and what 'hard work' would entail. For me, performing on stage does not feel like work, but I know I put a lot of effort and experience into it. I also learn lines faster than some of my actor friends, and can be off-book a bit sooner. That doesn't mean I work less than they do, and it certainly doesn't mean I shouldn't be up on stage with them, performing.

Oh fooey, look at my analogies getting all gollywumpus. Anyway, I just don't think you can assert levels of 'work' without getting twisty awfully fast. Length of time spent playing the game works some of the time, as a general sort of gauge, but with all of the resources we keep churning out (thanks to people like DarkForge and inio and the Firefly wiki people and Rowan for her guide and on and on and on), it's pretty possible to become game-savvy pretty quickly, and to feel very much a part of the game, even if no one has your beer ready for you as soon as you enter the bar.

There's just no good way to set someone's value as a player, so it's usually a lot easier to give mad props as often as possible, and enjoy the game as much as you can before it all ends and you're jonesin' for more more more.

For the record, the live call I got was the first call I'd ever personally answered. I went to 3 axons on August 24th, but only got to hear the repeat of one of them, because of a comedy of errors involving multiple banks of phones and phones that did not work. I've been here since Steve first reported getting the honey container. I dunno, how worthy was I?

I think random live calls were the only way to go about it, with the format they chose for this 'puzzle' of enhottenating axons.

Perhaps there's a phase of this game were it will be more competitive. Who knows?

It is what it is.

[weephun]

For any that really still care My feelings here: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=77474#77474

[weephun]

Though a much better ending to all this is provided here: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=77491#77491

[Dorkmaster]

Just to respond to the original thing that vpisteve mentioned in the beginning:

In terms of the SPARMY thing and breaking off into "factions" this is just something that is for fun, almost meta, but not quite. It's of course seen that those in the "crew" and those opposing in the "SPARMY" are ALL WORKING FOR THE SAME GOAL, which is to head on down this trail!

We know that... it's a given. Anyone who takes it so far as to really cut down another player is, well, in my humble opinion, an idiot and should really figure out if they get the nature of the game...

The reason I make the SPARMY an option, and defend its existence, is because there was "factioning" being created by the PMs in the first place. I'm pushing the envelope, sure, but only to an acceptable level. Those who must act as crewmembers must do their thing to keep the storyline going and believable, et al... but those of us who are left behind have one goal (in-game) which is to get the princess and Dana free from the intents of Melissa. Right? So all I've done with the SPARMY is create a light-hearted environment, where people can role-play their assistance in this matter even farther than the whole game would naturally allow. I personally see no harm in this as long as everyone takes the same understandings with them:

YOU ARE NOT ANYONE BUT YOURSELF, AND YOU ARE PLAYING A GAME. THEREFORE, YOUR "CHARACTER" MAKES YOU NO BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE PLAYING A "CHARACTER". HAVE FUN.

So that bit of common sense in stride, and we're off to play war! That's all...

I agree that people should not get riled up, but in-game and in-character, as long as people are having fun with the factions (it's a game anyway) then why not!

So that's my soapbox story. Dig it or not. Thanks for listening.

(This message was approved by the SPARMY)

[SuperJerms]

lol each time i read that, I thought you wrote SMARMY (as in, Hypocritically, complacently, or effusively earnest; unctuous...whatever unctuous means), not SPARMY

[ariock]

An apology to weephun

[bill]

If I compare someone to Hitler or call them a Nazi, can we invoke Godwin's Law on this topic?