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[MOSTLY TROUT] Everything I think I know about cloverfield.
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melonmonkey
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[MOSTLY TROUT] Everything I think I know about cloverfield.

I have a whole bunch of theories that I need proven, disproven, or added upon. Here goes:

Slusho theory:
The slusho making corperation captured clover, presumably from the bottom of the ocean, and is using it to either A) Make the slusho ingredient or B) experiment upon. It was being held at the Chaui station. It somehow excaped, and destroyed the place, then chased a tanker or two to NYC.

Satalite theory:
The satelite that was seen falling at the end of the movie itself awakens clover. This theory does not seem logical to me. First off, I know nothing about where that satalite landed. I am going to be assume that, because you can see it with fair ease, that it fell east of NYC and west of Chaui. Here is where things get awkward: Apparently, the monster went east to Chaui, then went back to NYC. Why would it go to NYC in the first place? If it was chasing something, it found it pretty quickly because after it arrived in NY, it quickly started ambling around destroying everything in sight. Either that, or it knew what it wanted in NYC but couldn't find it.

Why didn't it leave NYC after it started taking hurt?
It was had to have been there for a reason. If you beat a dog, it tries to go hide somewhere you can't hurt it, right? Clover should have realized, after Chaui, that in the water it is utterly safe. I don't think any of the sea creatures could hurt it, further founding this theory. It was getting hurt on land, everyone knows that. Why didn't it just get the heck back into the water where it was safe?

I may have more to type later, but I have to go <_<. Help answer my questions please :0

Trout
Tagged to reflect trout. Here are some of the references to your theories:
MGP is caged or being created/held by Tagruato (owners of the Slusho company)
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=436433#436433
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=452509#452509
Satellite/falling object awoke MGP
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25232
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:50 pm
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if you beat a grizzly bear It'll eat you. *nom nom*

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:18 am
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melonmonkey
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What happens if you shoot a grizzly from out of nowhere? does it sit around and try to find you, or does it run away?

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capecod
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I personally do not believe that the creature was captured by Tagruato, but that it was created by Tagruato with the use of the "special ingredient" - Slusho. To me, that is what all of the viral sites have been pointing to. Tagruato and its subsidy Yoshida Medical specialize in tampering with bio engineering, specifically and particularly with oceanic biology.

And if the Kishin comic book has any bearing on the story, then Tagruato is obviously controlled by/run by a cult whose intent is to destroy the "unworthy" of the world with the creature. Why the creature attacked the Chuin station, I don't know, but I seriously doubt that the creature was being imprisoned there. If it was, it obviously escaped. Or it is possible that it had already been let loose and it was drawn to the station because of the Slusho which the station was collecting from the ocean floor. In other words, something backfired. The creature then went on its way, as apparently directed by the cult leaders, to begin its assault on the world, begining first in NYC.

The real question is where the parasites came from, because they certainly couldn't be related to the creature. They must be another creation of Tagruato's genetic tampering.

That's just my take on the story.

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:25 am
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Euchre
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Well, except that JJ Abrams and Matt Reeves have both said MGP is a baby that has been down there at the bottom of the ocean for thousands of years.
The first mention in a topic, credited to JJ Abrams:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23350
And the source it cites:
http://jjabrams.net/showthread.php?t=190
And the corroboration in an interview with Matt Reeves, first appearing in this topic:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23852
And the article that refers to:
http://io9.com/346501/io9-talks-to-cloverfield-director-matt-reeves

Now I encourage all newcomers to use Search a bit, and/or use the Cloverfield: Reference / Press / Questions forum to ask a few questions about things or browse it for information. Trouting is to politely point you to the origin of the discussion, even if some people forget to Play Nice and include harsh jabs with it. (Hint: That's a polite way of telling some folks to ease up on the new folks.)
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IncidentCloverfield
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I believe clover was at the bottom of the ocean FROZEN (sleeping, dormant, hibernating,) in his amniotic sac Which if at 10,000 m below the surface it probably was a big frozen block. Tagruato took samples and that is what SLUSHO! is but didn't realize exactly what they were tampering with.

So either they drilled all of his amniotic substance and woke him, uncovered him he was free to swim away.

OR if the comic is canon (I love that word now, a totally new word in my vocab. since i've joined the forum.) I really think the satellite contained the pod which kept him dormant and in control. (We may soon see Kishin captured in the 4th pt. and the pod removed and Ganu puts it in the satellite to keep clover asleep and use it for whatever purposes $$$.)

Now, in the transcript it says the eco-terrorists had (static) ware... I'm guessing software. TIDO wave can obviously hack so maybe they took the satellite down with a malacious virus to stop tags production but unknowingly woke clover.

And thats what we see at the end of the movie... The satellite crashing in the ocean. Then a tagruato tanker goes to recover the pod east of NY city clover is in hot pursuit since he is connected. and thus the movie starts...

Why do you think Ganu was in NY city that day? to get his precious pod back personally. But Clover is just to fast. and badass... I'm done!

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TyluhShalla
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marlena's death
another thought

they never really show what happened to marlena
i saw the supplement files on http://www.cloverfieldfiles.com/ and they say they "leave it up to you" so i wonder if the parasites infect people and make them a. die b. change c. go insane causing the army to either shoot her or to cause her to explode
who knows maybe they turn into zombies Razz

and my first thought,
with the whole slusho thing i was expecting the slusho to make you a parasite, or something i don't really know. it obviously does "something" too you.


i just started yesterday, but i've been a lurker for a while
be kind if you trout lol

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Re: [MOSTLY TROUT] Everything I think I know about cloverfie

melonmonkey wrote:
Why didn't it leave NYC after it started taking hurt?
It was had to have been there for a reason. If you beat a dog, it tries to go hide somewhere you can't hurt it, right? Clover should have realized, after Chaui, that in the water it is utterly safe. I don't think any of the sea creatures could hurt it, further founding this theory. It was getting hurt on land, everyone knows that. Why didn't it just get the heck back into the water where it was safe?


Because it only started getting shot at when it was inland and surrounded by tall buildings. Suddenly it starts getting hurt and it panics. It doesn't know the way back to the water as it's lost.
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capecod
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Anyone have the link to the news videos of the chuin station? I saw them on YouTube, but I'm looking for the site where they are featured.


BTW, would anyone like to tell me where my WANTED picture was moved to?

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capecod wrote:
Anyone have the link to the news videos of the chuin station? I saw them on YouTube, but I'm looking for the site where they are featured.


BTW, would anyone like to tell me where my WANTED picture was moved to?

They were never featured on a site. They premiered on youtube. If you have the dvd, there's high-def versions on there.

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